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MarkTulip
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17/03/2008 4:19 pm  

Am i on my own here in thinking that they are a load of balls? I mean, who the hell buys these things? please tell me I'm not alone. I've seen prices for example of the classic eames lounge chair for £200!!!!! I mean ffs, who in there right mind would pay it?


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Craig
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17/03/2008 4:56 pm  

I actually collect the...
I actually collect the minatures but dont have the eames lounge chair, they are a brilliant thing to collect as I do not have enough space in my house to buy all the chairs I would like.
What is the difference from £200 for a minature to £4,000 - £5,000 for a full size one, could you not say the same for that?


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MarkTulip
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17/03/2008 4:58 pm  

I think £5000 for a chair is...
I think £5000 for a chair is equally ridiculous as £200 is for a miniture. I'm a huge fan of MCM (goes without saying being here) but can't agree with some of the pricing of certain design houses (Vitra being the obvious example)
Anyone who pays for £200 for something which is tant amount to dolls house furniture, frankly, IMO has more money than sense.


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Craig
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17/03/2008 5:14 pm  

It also depends on how big a...
It also depends on how big a interest furniture is to you, Im a graphic designer but love furniture i have the 5 panton chairs on my desk here at work theyre just a great peice to finish off my desk 🙂 if you have nothing else to spend your money on then why not 😀


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barrympls
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17/03/2008 5:19 pm  

For me
I'm not into the miniature collecting scene; it seems to me that Vitra is really gauging people with the prices for these.
They put the pretense of "design museum" behind each of their pieces; it's OK for full size quality furniture, but the minatures are like toys, aren't they?


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17/03/2008 7:40 pm  

barry and mark you guy...
barry and mark you guys are right on
what a rip
the first time i ever saw these little devils on ebay i thought they were the real thing and said to my self that chair looks like a good deal at that price, turns out it was a silly miniature,


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17/03/2008 8:08 pm  

🙂
That must indeed have...
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That must indeed have been frustrating.
I never understood those miniatures, when it loses it's function (living, sitting, eating..) what is left? In a sense it is kind of degrading for the designer, who created the piece as a combination of several thoughts and principles, together forming an undivisible unity.


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whitespike
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17/03/2008 8:09 pm  

I think they're silly. If I w...
I think they're silly. If I want to experience the chair without being able to own it, my design books will do. I personally think this is a good example of how the classic furniture manufacturers are capitalizing on the design trekkies. Now, I am not claiming that they are being unethical. I just think paying that kind of money for a toy is plain silly, no matter how much money you have.


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LuciferSum
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17/03/2008 8:13 pm  

Why is it
Why is it that when a certain item is out of a certain price range people think it's pretentious? I have to say, I'm all for free expression, but there comes a point when I'm just sick of needless bitching about high prices. There are plenty of people poorer than you and I who think our collections of MCM furniture is needless and pretentious.
Everyone knows the minis are expensive. So what? If you're a fan of a designer or a chair they make a much cheaper alternative than buying the full sized. And honest to god, buying one or two of your favorites isn't going to cost any more than a fancy piece of jewelry or a really nice night out. Why does everyone seem to miss the point about restraint and moderation? Do you need to have ALL of the minis? Or any?
And back to the pretention thing - class judgement and stereotyping really get under my skin. I live in the richest city in the country and meet my share of millionaires on a fairly regular basis and most are the nicest, unassuming, low key people you'd ever meet. I also meet some of the most saccharinely bourgeouis faux-nouveau riche - and they are usually complete pricks.


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MarkTulip
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17/03/2008 8:31 pm  

It's not (IMO) pretentious...
It's not (IMO) pretentious because it's expensive or out of my price range, it's pretentious because it serves no function and has a whopping great price tag to boot - I don't give a toss wether it's a 'design classic' that's just corporate bollocks to cover up the sneaky marketing plan, which is to withdraw more money from the pockets 'faux-nouveau riche' or 'hip' people so they can display them on their Ikea shelves (with respect to Ikea I may add - you know what I'm getting at)


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17/03/2008 9:17 pm  

First of all let me say that ...
First of all let me say that I've never bought or wanted one these miniatures. However within reasonable parameters people should be free to collect what the hell they like. These are no worse and a lot better than a some of the stuff people go for, believe me. I have to say I'm a little taken aback by the violence of the rhetoric against these....if ever the phrase 'lighten up' was apt its now.


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LuciferSum
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17/03/2008 9:25 pm  

I'd believe
I'd believe that your objection was about function if the initial post had been "what purpose do these server" instead of "people who buy these are idiots". If they were 10$ instead of $100 a lot of the pretentiousness would fall away, dont you think?
And incidentally, the Vitra miniatures were a funding mechanism for building the Vitra design museum, not exactly an ignoble pursuit for a company dedicated to preserving design heritage. Nobody faults MoMA for charging $100 for a hefty art book.


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James-2
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17/03/2008 10:12 pm  

Vitra
Although we don't want to own any Vitra Miniatures, they are nice. If I ever purchased one it would be a piece of furniture we already had. Price in mind, collecting the miniatures would be like buying pottery, art, watches, vases, clocks, or anything else that holds a high price tag. Mini chairs from Japan anyone?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Designers-Chair-Vol-3-Interior-Design-Miniature-9-ch...


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Robert Leach
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17/03/2008 10:49 pm  

Totally
I totally echo the sentiments of paulanna


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peter osullivan
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17/03/2008 10:54 pm  

no different to collecting...
no different to collecting scale models of cars / planes etc, lots of people enjoy this
pete


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