If you're strictly
a numbers guy, then you're talking to the wrong crowd. People here love this stuff like a son or daughter, and will defend and protect it just like one. It's not about the cost, it's about the value.
If you're worried that someone jerked off on anything used, then you better buy brand new from here on out. I wouldn't worry about that too much though, I'm sure someone jerked off in your Taco Bell last time you had it. And you thought you ordered your Burrito w/o sour cream....
Dude.
Paying $2000 for a new item that is available everywhere for $1900 is kinda dumb. But for a vintage item whose price might vary by many hundreds of dollars depending on when, where and from whom you buy it, a one hundred dollar difference between two prices is nearly meaningless.
Also, upholstery may not be rocket science but it's definitely an art. I'll pass on commenting on this chair in particular.
Kind of a big difference
between $2,000 and $100,000. Many great chairs are had for $500, if you're in the right place at the right time. I scored a nm Ingmar Relling Siesta Chair for $9 at Saver's one day. No ottoman, but who'd care at that price. It has light wood, with soft black weathered leather.
You can't beat the feel of seasoned leather. It softens with age, and cures like an old baseball glove, or a pair of cowboy boots. There's a reason why people drop the money they do on a vintage Herman Miller Lounge chair. Part of it is they want that rich, supple, softened up leather, that only comes with age. Not brand new, bright, crusty, hardened, made in China leather.
Kebab
Find yourself a reputable dealer and hash out a price. I think you'll discover that most of them are "numbers people" and that emotions can be eliminated from the equation if both parties are honest from the outset about fair market price and compensation. Beyond dumb luck, there really aren't any shortcuts to dramatic savings with these sets. In the end, though, patience and knowledge will often pay a dividend
Without reading the...
Without reading the listing I first thought there was something wrong with the leather on that chair.
It is not worth 2000 and I would just let it go.
Just go out and search a genuine vintage one in great condition for $3k.Most people or dealers will take offers especially if you walk in with cash.
I know a friends wife who will not buy used furniture for the similar reasons.I asked about staying in hotels every year on holidays but she says that is different.The fact is it's 100 times worse.
Unfortunately my mate is forced to buy everything new wasting his hard earned money for such snobby reasons so I feel sorry for him.
Ones state of mind seems the biggest issue here.
Well that's how I see it anyway.
Housekebab,
none of us real...
Housekebab,
none of us really care about cost because as mentioned, we care about value (and that involves so many variables). We also hate that you are asking us about the comfort of the chair, because it seems you will only be buying this as an investment or a status symbol. We own these wonderful objects of design because we love them. When any of us really want something, we wait patiently to find the piece that suits us perfectly. If we can't afford it, we do not buy a fake because its cheaper. We do not buy a bastardized example because its cheaper. We wait until we find a deal or until we have the dough or until we find the perfect one.
I spent two years researching the Eames lounge before I bought my first. I wanted to know exactly what year seemed most special, what details added personal value to the chair, and what I should look out for. You need to do your own research. If you make a mistake, it was a learning experience. I only recently found the Eames lounge chair I intend on making permanent and it took a few tries until I reached that point.
Buy these designs for the right reason. Don't buy an Eames lounge because it is an Eames lounge. Buy it because you love it and won't settle for anything else.
The Museum of Modern Art Stor...
The Museum of Modern Art Store sells that chair. I don't have an art background and use the MoMA Store as a starting point for what to buy when I get confused. I learned a lot from the very posters in your thread.
Fyi: someone knowledgeable made a convincing argument that the base structure on this chair isn't as good as other chairs. It was my first pick for a lounge chair, but that category is what they call loaded.
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Comfort is very subjective.
Find one and sit in it.
That said, I would say that a lot of people find them very comfortable.
I don't know what your criteria are for being able to read in a chair, but I think as long as you keep your eyes open this would be possible in an Eames lounge chair.
I have heard that very tall people don't find them as comfortable as chairs with taller backs but I think it's an individual thing without an exact cutoff point on the height chart.
But in the end, it's foolish to spend that kind of money on a chair you've never tried yourself. I wouldn't spend any money at all on a chair I haven't yet sat in myself, since I believe function is as important as form.
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@HouseKebab
Some of the attitude that you may be picking up on in some of the responses to your queries likely have to do with this:
"I asked a simple question. What is that chair worth? It is the forum that is thinking way too hard. I just wanted a number."
A link to the rules of the forum are clearly posted at the top of the section and they are very simple and clear. Rule #3, for example:
3. Requests to identify objects are welcome as long as the object is
believed to be modern, post-modern or contemporary (no antiques). You may
ask for help identifying an object?s designer, producer, period, style,
material etc. ? but not its commercial value. This forum is not a free
valuation service.
As most of the people who frequent this forum are familiar with the rules and are genuine lovers of design, these types of inquires are generally met with loaded responses by those who truly value and appreciate objects of design. That being said, I do believe you're correct that even lovers of design care about cost at some point. Regardless of how much you may love or appreciate an object and all it's design attributes, there are many pieces that are simply out of reach, due to their cost/value. However, what most have in common on this site is that will not settle for sub par originals or reproductions simply to attain a certain look/style, regardless of the cost.
As for your questions regarding comfort, while it is a highly subjective issue, I find these chairs to be super comfortable and think they are ideal to use for reading. Unless you're well over 6ft. tall, you wouldn't have a problem with this chair. What I do find a little odd is that you were contemplating shelling out $3000 for a chair when you are not even sure of it's comfort level. The fact that you apparently haven't seen/sat in one of these chairs in person, but were will to drop a fair chunk of change on one conveys that you aren't really interested in it as an object of design, but more of a symbol of status or an investment for resale. Again, this generally garners some negativity in responses on this forum and makes people suspicious of your motives as a buyer.
Motives? Why would I blow $3...
Motives? Why would I blow $3500 on a chair?
1) Chair for functional use. But, one can get a awesome comfortable chair for $200, so how to justify the extra $3300?
2) Chair that looks cool and distinctive. That might be worth another few hundred bucks. $1000, max. So how to justify the extra $1500 above that?
2) Chair that holds its resale value. How does one do that? Go vintage. WHY people like these chairs, I don't really care much. That they DO is what matters to me. Sure, the chair looks neat, but I don't care much. As people on this forum have implied, Eames chairs have jumped the shark long ago, and it's only a matter of time that they Jersey Shore crowd gets into them so they can appear "classy" and cultured. Probably not that different than the people already here. Whatever.
People here talk like buying a chair with resale value in mind is blasphemy. They are pretentious blowhards. Some of us actually work for a living, and don't see it prudent to piss $3500 on something b/c it looks "neato". Yea, resale value. Yea, damn straight when I am talking $3500 for a god damned CHAIR.
Let's face it, these chairs are a straight up rip-off. That is why a repro can be made for $1000 with the exact same engineering and materials. Spare me the design legacy. HM is making money off some dead guy, period. They are just as much repros as repros! Just bigger profit margins.
If you loved the DESIGN so much, you'd be happy with a repro. It's the same design. The reason you're not tells everything about why you actually own one.
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