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frnturelvr
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14/02/2014 4:19 am  

I recently purchased a really nice teak dining table that is unmarked (or missing the tag), and I'd love to get some help identifying the maker and designer. It's currently disassembled, but I've taken some pictures of the legs, top and side which hopefully are good enough to identify it. The top and sides are slightly curved, unlike most generic Danish teak tables I've seen.
Pictures are at the link below (sorry they didn't show up right when I associated them with this post). Any info is appreciated!
http://imgur.com/a/Fqm8g


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14/02/2014 9:41 pm  

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No chance, the table has been sold scores of times during the last years but it was never possible to attribute it to a designer or manufactory.


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frnturelvr
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14/02/2014 10:11 pm  

Unmarked dining table - help identifying maker/designer
Thanks for the reply. After some digging I found these tables which appear to be a match:
http://www.danishmafia.com/mid-century-danish-modern-teak-table-grete-ja...http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/4622542
Every component of the table looks the same as far as I can tell.
http://www.danishmafia.com/mid-century-danish-modern-teak-table-grete-ja...


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14/02/2014 10:28 pm  

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It's definitely not a Grete Jalk table, and never seen a Glostrup label on this table.


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frnturelvr
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14/02/2014 10:43 pm  

Unmarked dining table - help identifying maker/designer
One more that appears to be the same table (link below). It really does look identical, the curved sides, curved top, legs, etc. Would you suggest that none of them are actually Glostrup or that for some reason mine is not?
http://www.whitetrashnyc.com/products/teak-extension-dining-table-by-glo...


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/02/2014 11:04 pm  

Those certainly look like...
Those certainly look like the same table to me.
The problem with the identification as Glostrup is that nobody mentioned any proof of the assertion. The closest you've got is the liveauctioneers listing mentioning that there is a foil label, but notice!: the seller didn't mention which piece of furniture bears the foil label. The table? the chairs? And of course there isn't even a photo of the foil label.
The internet is an echo chamber, so all these Glostrup/Jalk identifications could easily stem from a highly questionable identification like the liveauctioneers one. Especially since if you have a motivation ($$$) to see Glostrup/Jalk in the styling of the table it isn't hard to do so.
If you want to identify beyond a reasonable doubt you need to find a marked exemplar and preferably the listing won't say that there is a label, but will actually show you a photo of it so you can see for yourself.


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frnturelvr
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14/02/2014 11:13 pm  

Unmarked dining table - help identifying maker/designer
Echo chamber indeed. That makes sense, and I appreciate the responses. There is no marking on the table at all, just one spot where it looks like a tag may have been lightly attached at some point.
Is it not possible to identify a table like this just based on its characteristics, without a marking?


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/02/2014 11:38 pm  

I think it is possible to ide...
I think it is possible to identify certain very well differentiated furniture without a marked specimen, or other documentation. But if you want to persuade another person beyond a reasonable doubt it may take quite a lot of time explaining.
I have identified a couple of pieces of danish modern furniture this way, but in neither case was I satisfied until I had more succinct evidence (a catalog in one case and a marked specimen in the other), even though I already knew beyond a doubt that I was correct.
I don't see that sort of stunt being very feasible with your table. But you are welcome to prove me wrong. Just don't expect anyone to put much money behind your "identification on details and aesthetics" until you've found proper documentation.


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14/02/2014 11:40 pm  

Yes. Find an old catalog,...
Yes. Find an old catalog, book, or advertisement that provides an attribution.
Edit: (response to two posts above)


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/02/2014 11:54 pm  

If you want another pool of...
If you want another pool of images to try trawling through for ideas, Lauritz can be useful. Use google: "site:lauritz.com spisebord teak" or some such query in Danish. And bear in mind Lauritz isn't authoritative, but oftimes it can give you the right answer that leads you to proper documentation. And occasionally it even offers up a marked specimen.


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frnturelvr
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15/02/2014 12:23 am  

Unmarked dining table - help identifying maker/designer
Thanks for the response. I'm not a dealer - just a guy who likes furniture, so value isn't too much of a concern. This table is going to serve in my dining room as soon as I get a chance to finish it. But it's always fun to know what you've got.


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15/02/2014 12:54 am  

Wood grain
I just wanted to say I love the wood grain pattern on your table; much better (IMHO) than the ones in the sales links. Unlike designer names it is hard to put a value on such intangible qualities, but the beauty of the grain will surely enrich your life.
(Sorry I can't help with the ID)


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frnturelvr
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15/02/2014 1:37 am  

Unmarked dining table - help identifying maker/designer
Thanks! The grain is definitely a bit different, but I realized that what makes it so cool. I'm planning to finish the entire table so hopefully the grain shines equally as well on the main top as on the leaves.


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17/02/2014 4:38 pm  

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Looking at the legs, the joints are held in place by a steel bracket and bolt?
The top looks to be veneered and not solid?
The legs look like pine?
Unlikely to be a Danish classic.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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17/02/2014 5:10 pm  

The legs are teak (look at...
The legs are teak (look at the end grain; it doesn't leave room for doubt).
Most all classic danish tables and sideboards are veneer. Most all danish tables and sideboards whether they have class or not are veneer. And amongst the rare solid teak specimens, there are those that are quite generic. Personally I prefer solid teak, but it isn't a reliable indicator of class. (In fact it leaves no space for middle ground; solid teak pieces are either amongst the classiest or most generic)
An HW Klein for Bramin table Comes to mind as a table I've seen with steel corner brackets. It's not a Juhl or Wegner, but far from generic.


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