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18/04/2013 5:30 pm  

Please refer to the picture links and kindly give me suggestions on what I could improve the Designs! Thank you! If you can't view the picture, right click and click 'Open image in new Tab'.


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rockland
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18/04/2013 6:06 pm  

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Much more information needed. Interesting, but what is the purpose, what materials are you using, etc. The first image, the chair(?), has such a broad base. Takes up much real estate and one would need to 'climb in'. Unless the intention is a modern 'phone booth', a chair for a public space and privacy.
Not sure what the second drawing is. A stool, a side table?


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18/04/2013 9:26 pm  

Pictures fixed
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18/04/2013 9:45 pm  

Clarifications =)
I'm using Acrylic only.
Erm, obviously the first picture is a chair but it's different as this Chair could store your bags and etc onto the space provided. Furthermore, the front part of the chair where you could place your foot onto it.
The second picture is a table where you could store your valuables inside. But importantly, I'm focusing on the first picture.
The theme of my project is 'Hospitality'. And so, if anyone out there could improvise my designs especially the first picture and sketch it out, I would certainly appreciate it! =)
Help me!!!


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18/04/2013 11:53 pm  

Still not sure what you're looking for.
Just criticism?
I'm no chair designer, but my first thoughts are:
1. The chair's flat base seems wrong. It's heavy, it prevents the chair from easily being moved, it requires that the entire area under the chair be flat in order for the chair not to wobble. The corners and edges will soon be dented and worn (or cracked) from banging into things. Its presence decreases the available storage space under the chair.
2. An 11-inch seat depth wouldn't be comfortable for most adults, and the space under the chair probably wouldn't hold an adult-size (i.e., laptop-size) bag.
3. If your bag is hidden within a solid box under the seat, it's easy to forget that it's there when you leave.
4. The back angle and the flat seat and back surfaces don't look comfortable at all.
5. The chair won't stack.
Changes I'd make if it were my chair:
1. In my opinion, it would look nicer if the vertical face of the front leg were extended upward until its top corners intersected the outer edges of the leg.
2. Are the buttresses on the left and right sides of the front leg necessary? Removing them would lighten the chair (both literally and visually) and maybe make it easier to clean and harder to trip over.
3. In my opinion, the rear leg of the chair would look more graceful if its vertical front face were allowed to slope parallel to its rear face.
If you made those three changes, you'd have something like my crude drawing below. And if you had that, I imagine that the footrest at the front of the chair would look out of place to you. You'd probably want to rework it, both for comfort while sitting and for ease of standing (and for aesthetics). The usual solution is a crossbar between the front legs.
If you made all those changes, you'd end up with a chair very much like most other chairs... Which is probably what you're trying to avoid.
But of course there's a good reason that most chairs look alike: They're all using the same tools and materials to solve the same set of well-understood problems. If you're also using the same materials and tools, and also trying to solve the same problems, variations from the existing highly-optimized designs are unlikely to be improvements.


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19/04/2013 3:47 am  

Thank you fastfwd, for the...
Thank you fastfwd, for the reply. Anyway, maybe I'm considering to change my idea.
Well currently, I'm thinking to develop an idea where a Chair can accommodate at least 4 people or, a Chair can duplicate.
Meaning that I'm having the idea to develop a chair specially for people who go for seminars. For example, when people go for a break after one part of the Seminar, they'll find it difficult to find a seat and therefore, they need to stand?
In summary, my product environment would be at the Lobby where people go for their Refreshment break.
So, could you kindly give some ideas or maybe sketch some ideas that you have?
Thank you.
Anyone out there, please do Contribute.


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19/04/2013 4:06 am  

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19/04/2013 4:32 am  

The library and google is your first stop
I would think that the best place to start is the library. Exposure to other designers and design movements should inform your work rather than random suggestions. The old saying 'form equals function' presents an interesting point of departure for a design hypothesis, I would argue that design is about finding eloquent solutions to a problem. With that in mind, consider how other designers have sought to solve the problem of pop-up seating and/or seating for 4 or more people.
Adam Goodrum's Stitch Chair (see link) is a good example of an eloquent solution or interpretation of the ubiquitous folding chair. There are loads of interesting designs on google but you really need to list all the problems you are trying to solve before you start drawing. The suggestions you have received show that the design needs to be rigorous and not create more problems, such as the chair becoming difficult to move or unresolved.
Each problem you solve can create more problems and that's why designers spend such a long time considering the form and the materials. Perhaps you could design seating that is made from recycled cardboard or other light Eco-friendly materials. See link: http://www.homecrux.com/tag/cardboard-furniture
You need to ask yourself, does the design meet the brief and does it tick all the boxes on my problem list. It's also a good idea to consider the aesthetic value. You can get an idea how much work is involved designing a chair at this engineering course link: http://www.teachengineering.org/view_activity.php?url=collection/wpi_/ac...
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Opinions are everywhere and we all seek different things from design.
Cheers,
Tick.
P.S. I would like to know if Mark is dressing to match his patio furniture or the patio furniture was bought to match the suit?
http://www.cappellini.it/portal/page/portal/new/webpages/cappellini/cata...


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19/04/2013 5:31 am  

Thank you for the invitation
but I think you will learn better without my ideas or sketches.


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19/04/2013 5:54 am  

Students should
be able to home in on a single problem description before asking for advice -- it seems to me (as a former student).
If the seat in the OP's illustration is intended to protect the sitter during rapid vertical acceleration, then the design makes sense to me. In any event, it is nicer to look at than the well-meaning contribution of the subsequent poster.
Mark's cool suiting makes for fabulous moiré on my screen . . .


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19/04/2013 6:07 am  

The subsequent poster's contribution
was of course intended to be unappealing, so as to draw attention to the problem(s) with the footrest.


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Starline
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19/04/2013 3:11 pm  

Assuming the chair is a...
Assuming the chair is a colour is transparent then close the sides and cut out the front square panel and piece under your feet.No one would like resting their feet on it,it will get irritating and get all scratched anyway.
You said hospitality so women could put their bags inside from the front and no one can steal them from behind or side.Even if it's coloured you can see through the chair so should notice when glancing back.
In case some don't know many busy food courts have hooks under the table to hang your bag.This stops people walking past and picking up a handbag while people are eating or on phone or laptop.
It could be stackable if the back was thick and hollow.


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21/04/2013 12:37 pm  

Hey there, Starline. You've...
Hey there, Starline. You've got a good point there. Could you sketch out some ideas that enables me to improve the design?
Would really appreciate it!


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johnmclaren
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23/04/2013 10:59 pm  

Well, the designs look quite...
Well, the designs look quite interesting, I hope you must have come up with some fine ideas on what you want to do with the designs after such innovative ideas from everyone. Do share with us on board.


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