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11/02/2008 8:07 pm  

Many of the wonderful Dansk...
Many of the wonderful Dansk mills have the Peugeot works Olive, if I remember correctly. I could go look.
I can't go look at this, but I'm guessing at least one of the more significant 1960s factors at work on many of the folks on this board is the technological revolution, which is strangely akin to the industrial revolution - the age of the machine - but at warp speed.
When I mention the Veg-O-Matic, I'm alluding to the spice gun - to television, big television, the biggest machine. How else could inventions of less worth yet possible success - at least from an economic angle - come forth, and at such rapid pace.
It's consumerism - the new industrialism - that is among the biggest problems the world's now facing. The tools at its disposal are beyond advanced, and as an opponent of said demise one might truly be able to say one day soon - if it can be said faster than an auctioneer - that one is now actually fighting fire with fire.
We are clearly devouring the planet at such an alarming rate - dc, koen, et al, you could all refute or explain this better in three or four easy parts: the remarkable impact, in this age, of media upon culture.
Very often these days I think I would rather find myself back in Mayberry, whistling out to the pond with Andy hoping to catch a nice bass. I have in mind using a good old Pflueger baitcaster; and not, alas, the Pocket Fisherman.


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Olive
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11/02/2008 9:42 pm  

Oh Hudsonhonu, you're speaking my language!
these days I find less and less I want to comment on when the posts run to discussions about endless stuff and who has the more authentic LeCorbu-chewed pencil or some other equally meaningless thing. Meanwhile the planet is getting eaten alive for the production of useless stuff. And don't even get me started on the clamshell packaging that all the useless items come packaged in.
Who needs a spice gun for heavens sake...use one of Koen's lovely mortar and pestles, a hand made item that improves on a design that humans have used for eons! No need for a 'uni-tasker'. We are awash in crap, especially here in the US-- I, for one, am more and more disgusted by it. I asked my local grocery not to give me 2 plastic bags and a paper wrap for one small piece of salmon and I was told, sorry we are required to do this for sanitation reasons! So to buy my dinner I must create a ridiculous amount of waste. Lately I've been managin to get the fellow to reduce it by one plastic bag.
But it's that sort of mindless consumption that really makes me angry. We've become so complacent. We want everything handed to us tied up with a bow. Folks don't think about where their food, energy or products come from and what it takes to get them to their homes. One of the things the industrial revolution did right was the idea of regional production. Wool was woven in areas that had cold weather, for example. Today in New England we have tons of abandoned Woolen Mills that sit empty while our clothing comes from China 1/2 way across the planet. Stupid.
I hope we figure all this out soon...we're acting like viruses and killing our host.
http://www.storyofstuff.com/index.html


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HPau
 HPau
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11/02/2008 10:32 pm  

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I agree entirely with Olive but I think a lot of collectors, though consumers by definition, practice just the sort of consumption that should be encouraged, buying second hsnd, taking care of goods and repairing them rather than throwing them away.


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Olive
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11/02/2008 11:16 pm  

Heath
I do agree with you. Collecting and conserving vintage pieces fits quite nicely into the framework of "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle"
And I'm not saying I'm perfect...but I've spent a lot of time looking at how I live lately and I'm sitting far lighter on the earth than I used to. I was never ever a big consumer, but I am now living just as well, if not better, with a whole lot less crap. Amazing what you don't need and don't miss once you set your mind to it.


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HPau
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12/02/2008 12:27 am  

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yes I agree, I think I live better than a lot of people I know who have a lot more money than me. I won't rabbit on about it becuase it makes me sound pompous and concieted but I ride a bicycle, get fruit and vegetables from a market, use three lightglobes and if I find a big piece of furniture I pay to get it delivered or sometimes if I feel like the workout I'll carry a chair home, cheaper than a gym!
The only thing I really get concerned about is that sometimes I find it hard to avoid using glues and finishes that are a bit toxic. The economics of buying the right stuff is tricky too, for a a current project I have struggled to get my hands on plantation grown timber, at the end of the day it is much much cheaper for me to buy hardwood timber from a large corporation that is harvested 2000 km away in difficult circumstances than to get softwood planation timber that is grown 150km away. Figure that!
It would actually be cheaper too for me to get oregon or western red cedar imported from your side of the planet than from (almost literally) up the road.


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Big Television Man
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13/02/2008 6:09 pm  

To Olive and the back end of the Boomer years
I could tell by some of your (Olives) punk rock references in the past. How about Echo and the Bunnymen or the Religous GoCarts, Dead Milkman, I could go on and on. I grew up in New England and would make pilgrimages to the Boston area to see Jonathan Richmond and the Modern Lovers, but that's way off topic.
Yes Robert1960 your handle is a give away but so are your posts and reference points. I'm 1960 also, made in Bermuda in 1959 and shipped in early 1960. Hudsonhonu and kdc also by some of your refernces. And as to Killian, I think you are from, what for me is affectionately refered to as the "old sod" I am a scant two generations removed and if I am correct on your origins, that makes you wise beyond your years as well as extremely erudite. As I said, I know this is completely off topic I'm completely fascinated by generational patterns both in furniture and views of the world.


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Big Television Man
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13/02/2008 6:19 pm  

Back on topic
Here's a great combo pepper and salt grinder from Bodum. I've never seen it in the US, got ours in France. Simple, works great. Turn wheel at top one way to grind salt, the other direction for pepper. Adjustable grind also.
http://www.bodum.com/b2c/index.asp?shpId=4&id=10579-57&famId=12&famSubId...


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kdc (USA)
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15/02/2008 9:50 pm  

hey big t.v. guy
regarding your guess on my age, you hit your head on the nail. i'm a certified 1959 boomer. very astute observation! [and thanks for your appreciation of my posts; i aim to at least sometimes contribute something either meaningful or humorous!]


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Olive
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15/02/2008 10:20 pm  

What also amuses me is...
the original poster poor Pete 1979....never dared to repost...we made a dog's brakfast out of the Spice Gun and he ran ran away...but then he's
Actually I've always liked the wide age range here...SDR, Koen, Vivienne and the long missing Annette.sco are above me, and there are other much younger. Agesism doesn't apply to our love of design but it does seem to apply to our tastes in gadgets, gewgaws and thing-a-ma-bobs!


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peter osullivan
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16/02/2008 1:40 am  

Pedros still here B-)
To b...
Pedros still here B-)
To be honest I don't have much interest or opinion (my sea salt comes straight from a cardboard tube and the pepper from a plastic mill from tesco)
I just thought it might be of interest to other forum users, its certainly become a good read,
pete


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azurechicken (USA)
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16/02/2008 8:13 pm  

PEDRO
We need your humor & someone to go gunning for those pesky spice girls...


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