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RetroSixty
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29/11/2011 3:33 pm  

Thanks for your comments....
Thanks for your comments. Knoll is authorised, thus not fake. The only DH around here is you my friend.


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TinyArmada
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29/11/2011 3:41 pm  

Authorised
If you mean fakes hurt the market for real manufacturers, then yes, I agree with you on that point.
Would you sing that song if Lee Qin Quong from China purchased all the rights for every major great brand we talk about on this board?
I do not think so.
The clear point of his post was about the construction - void of the point as to the "rights".
- A.S.


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Robert Leach
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29/11/2011 3:49 pm  

Tinywotsit / AS/ DH..whoever ...
it's you're not your.
(and just because someone has a different opinion to yours it doesn't make them a dickhead, a twat, or indeed, wrong)


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essai
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29/11/2011 4:12 pm  

Dear tinyarmada,
We strongly invite you to be more courteous in your comments. By insulting one of the most educated and well respected members of our forum, you're just making a fool of yourself.
Patrick & Alix


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danielmpoole
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29/11/2011 4:57 pm  

Doesn't take long for a thread to turn nasty here, does it?
Y'all need some lovin'
http://thenicestplaceontheinter.net/


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Chicagoan
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29/11/2011 6:23 pm  

For me, it's a question of in...
For me, it's a question of intellectual property, not quality (though the latter is important, too). It's important for me to have a real Barcelona chair and a real Saarinen tulip table because I respect the men who created them, and their right to their own design.
This world would be a sad place indeed without people who come up with original ideas. I think they (or their heirs in these instances) deserve to benefit.
Fakes are pretentious. The very definition of pretension is to pretend to be something one is not. A house full of knock-off furniture says quite a lot, I think, about its inhabitant.
Even if the only difference between a real Barcelona and a fake is the license certificate -- well, that's all the difference in the world to me.
But in any case, I've never seen a fake live up to the real thing.


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niceguy
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29/11/2011 6:55 pm  

can not help themselves
I am sure that robert1960 can understand tinyarmada's posting as a person who may not be able to help themselves due to a lack of education and a limited vocabulary.
The sentence "Your the type" as opposed to "You are or you're" is the proof. This is a second or third grade error.


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gene
 gene
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29/11/2011 7:01 pm  

tinyarmada'a response was...
tinyarmada'a response was way out of line...but "Buying a fake, means you're fake"? Right after tinyarmada writes that s/he has a fake? That's really rude, and a provocation. (And I write that as someone who'd never buy a fake. In fact, I'd never buy an "authorized" new production, which to me is pretty much the same thing as a fake. But I appreciate that not everybody feels the same way and I wouldn't call anyone else a "fake" because they might buy a fake, authorized or not).


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spacepirate1
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29/11/2011 7:42 pm  

You know Queenmod is right wh...
You know Queenmod is right when even the forum moderators swoop in to defend a douchebag comment with their own douchebag comment.
"Designdouchebags.com" is available on godaddy. You guys should consider buying it.
I also think its funny that you guys are actually defending licensed "new production" as its just as cheesy as the outright fake stuff.


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NULL NULL
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29/11/2011 8:11 pm  

At this point...
The Chairman must put his foot down.


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Lunchbox
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29/11/2011 9:06 pm  

1000
Signed,
Douchebox


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Mark
 Mark
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29/11/2011 11:33 pm  

?
A sweet couple named Aaron and Tiny,
Preferred fake objects brand new and shiny.
But with a last name like Saxton,
What are you expactin'?,
As West Virginia people can be ribaldry and whiny.
Shots of moonshine for the Appellation Americans!
Best,
#1002


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spacepirate1
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29/11/2011 11:47 pm  

Why are people jumping all...
Why are people jumping all over tinyarmada?
NickR60 came across as more of an uneducated pretentious asshole.


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fastfwd
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30/11/2011 2:21 am  

Foxxy
Also, your claim about Modernica -- that their Eames knockoffs not only exhibit quality as good as the licensed product, but are actually BETTER because they're allegedly closer to the original design -- is unsupported by my experience. See my very first post to DA, linked below:
http://www.designaddict.com/design_addict/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/th...


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fastfwd
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30/11/2011 2:21 am  

Blah blah blah
I still haven't seen specific examples of the claimed "many cases" of unlicensed knockoffs that are identical to licensed products.
No offense, Foxxy, but when you say "ive seen some very good copies of [the Barcelona, and] I've seen atleast one exceptional copy [of the Wassily, and] I've also seen a bunch of the Panton stuff copied that looks and feels exactly like the licensed stuff", but you don't identify those copies by manufacturer or distributor, it's just the same old vague hand-waving talk that I referred to in my first post on this topic.
Without proof that many high-quality knockoffs even exist, there's no point in even starting to talk about intellectual property, royalties, rights, respect for designers, etc. The low quality of nearly all the knockoffs is reason enough to avoid them.
In my opinion, anyway.


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