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Samuelson
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07/11/2007 8:32 pm  

Hi everybody,
I'm new to this forum and maybe some of you can help me on that.
I have the chance to get an "Original Herman Miller Eames Lounge". The seller sent me these pictures. What do you think of that?

http://www.hs-theresianum.at/Miller/miller.htm


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Modern Love
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07/11/2007 9:22 pm  

Hi, welcome
What is your question exactly?


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Modern Love
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07/11/2007 9:27 pm  

Are you asking
if it's authentic?


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Samuelson
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07/11/2007 9:59 pm  

That's exactly what I'd like...
That's exactly what I'd like to know.
It has a "Herman Miller" sticker on it, but is it authentic? The only picture I have seen so far from which I suppose it's original shows a black sticker and some licence numbers and a date stamp. Something that is either missing on this chair or it's placed somewhere else. I don't know.


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LuciferSum
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07/11/2007 11:22 pm  

Samuelson
Ask the dealer the height and width of the chair - should be 32-33 high and 33 wide. Looks fairly authentic, with a HM sticker. Also- HM usually encloses authenticity documents in a plastic bag like the one hanging off the back of the chair.
Just a warning though - if this is an Ebay offer where you are told to contact the seller directly for purchase it is a fraudulent transaction: you wont recieve any chair at all.


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Samuelson
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07/11/2007 11:38 pm  

You're right!
It's such an ebay offer. But it seems to be quite ok so far. I got an ebay transaction mail, where the payment is said to be insured with money-back guarantee.
Of course it is possible that this mail is a fake.
Do you know for sure that they gonna pull my leg?
Of course I haven't paid anything so far.


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Fungus Mungus (USA)
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07/11/2007 11:44 pm  

Check MY MESSAGES before you do anything else
Go to "My Messages" in your My Ebay account. If the offer is there, it's legit. If it's not there, don't walk, RUN.
fm


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Samuelson
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08/11/2007 12:06 am  

That's what I'll probably do...
There's no message in my ebay account. I've sent the Transaction-Mail for spoof-checking to ebay. Let's see.
Thanks a lot so far, Lucifer and Fungus!


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NULL NULL
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08/11/2007 12:16 am  

Ebay scams
That's very interesting about the ebay scams. I've experienced the same scenario only when I started emailing back and forth about picking it up directly - poof - the ebay post went away. (I was asking because the seller claimed to be in a small town outside of the larger town I city I live in).
Curiously the seller was also selling laptops and cameras. Not other mid-century furniture. I don't know how much one wants to read into this but to me this puts the Eames lounge and ottoman into the category of the other status symbols. (I guess that's not the reason I would want one though.)


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Samuelson
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08/11/2007 12:23 am  

Reply from ebay - it's a fake!
I mean the Transaction-Mail, not the Eames Lounge...
Sad thing, that's going on here.
The good old shops in town seem much more appealing to me now!


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Fungus Mungus (USA)
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08/11/2007 1:38 am  

Glad you were able to avoid...
Glad you were able to avoid this trap. There is a fair bit of this stuff going on now. A couple of tips to keep from falling into this and other traps on eBay:
- If an auction includes a direct email address telling you to email them directly for direct purchase, it's a scam.
- If you're not sure, check the feedback of the person selling. If there is no recent feedback, that should ring some bells...this is an indicator of a hijacked eBay account. If the recent feedback doesn't indicate that they usually deal in the the kinds of things you're looking at, it could be an indicator of a hijacked account (but not always)
- Check the other items the seller has listed. If you see a whole slew of high priced items (musical instruments, computer gear, car stereos, etc), it's almost certainly a hijacked account.
- If you get a second-chance offer from someone claming to be the seller of an item you bid on but lost, check MY MESSAGES in eBay. If it's not there, it's a fake.
Scammers cruise eBay looking for high-priced items such as vintage musical instruments, designer furniture, heavy equipment, computers, etc. Unfortunately, Eames lounges are a favorite of theirs.
These will keep you from falling into the most obvious traps.
fm


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LuciferSum
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08/11/2007 2:00 am  

Just out of curiousity
Just out of curiousity I started emailing one of those lounge chair offers back and forth. I was directed to send a check to an address in California, but the person's ID was listed in Kentucky. She told me she had just moved her shop to California a few days before. When I asked the location of the chair I was told it was in Europe, but would be shipped 3 day air. All for $600.
A quick look at the person's account told me even more: all big name items - 3k mountain bikes, electronics, computers, gaming systems. All for sale for 1/3 the price if you contact the seller directly. And all of the listings were in Comic Sans...the bastards.


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Tulipman
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08/11/2007 5:00 am  

There's more Eames Lounge Phony listings on Ebay
than anything!I have seen Eames Lounge listings from the UK,as well as anywhere USA,(with seller feedback of 0 )and all of a sudden they're offering a perfect Eames 670 HM Lounge & Ottoman(Yea,right!).It got so I recognized the pictures which were used over and over again!Caveat emptor-Buyer beware for sure!


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Samuelson
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08/11/2007 10:24 am  

Thanks a lot, again!
Your were here to help at the right time. Without you I had lost quite some money!
I think Ebay should notify its members on that.
One tends to believe what he WANTS to believe, and if there's a great offer, WOW!
So I guess, don't believe the unbelievable!


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