haha funny!
90% of the population are my clients. LOL. You are such a moron. You guys always end up needing someone who knows more than you. Instead of reading a book or article, you pay people like me, and I laugh because you bought a computer based on what it looks like.
Fine collectables are fine, because they are quality. Why shouldn't computers be the same?
And wow, from the questions you asked, you're far more of a nerd than I could be. See-I'm brilliant. You're just a Mac usin' geek.
Mac OS X version of AutoCAD due out in October
Autodesk is bringing AutoCAD, its industry standard design software, back to the Mac in October. A free AutoCAD viewer app for iOS is on its way as well.
Autodesk senior vice-president Amar Hanspal told the Financial Times that a Mac OS X version of its flagship software will be released by the end of October. Pricing will remain the same as the Windows version.
Apple is thrilled that Autodesk is bringing AutoCAD back to the Mac and we think it's the perfect combination for millions of design and engineering professionals, said Apple senior vice-president of Worldwide Product Marketing Philip Schiller in a news release.
The last time AutoCAD was available on the Mac was in 1992. 13 releases have followed since then, including the current Windows-only Release 25, which was released in March.
The addition of the $4,000 program to the Mac software lineup could help Apple see continued growth in Mac enterprise sales. According to figures from the June quarter, Mac business sales increased 50% year-over-year, compared to 16% growth in the market.
AutoCAD has over 10 million users, many of whom, according to Hanspal, have requested a Mac version of the software.
Hanspal also announced an upcoming iOS application, AutoCAD WS, that will allow users to view and make small modifications to their designs. The app will work on the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch.
The iPad's not the only tablet that Autodesk is interested in. "The tablet is becoming an interesting form factor. There are multiple operating systems people are looking at," Hanspal said.
A browser-based limited-function version of AutoCAD is also in development.
In May, screenshots of a Mac OS X beta of AutoCAD were published on an Italian Mac forum, confirming speculation that Autodesk was at work on a Mac OS X release.
jennocide
You seem like a nice kid, and your posts are amusing, but you may want to learn a little bit about this topic before saying much more.
1. "Go to ITT Tech-you'll find Macs. Go to MIT. You won't find one on the entire campus."
Here's a description of the Human Speechome Project at MIT; they're using Macs:
http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/mit/index.html
As you'd know if you'd attended the school, there are LOTS of Macs and Mac users at MIT. I searched, though, and couldn't find the words "Mac", "Macintosh", or "Apple" in ANY of the course descriptions on ITT Tech's website (although I did find plenty of references there to Microsoft and Linux).
2. "Mac didn't design the case first."
It's well known that Apple DID design the original Mac case first -- why do you suppose it looked so different from every other personal computer? Here's an anecdotal account by someone who observed the process:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=More_Like_A...
In fact, everyone ALWAYS designs the case first; it's extraordinarily rare for the process to work the other way around, especially for consumer products.
3. "We programmers don't design the interface first. We always always always design function first. Function is the only thing that matters with real technology. Ever."
After you graduate from school and start working as an engineer, you'll see that this isn't true. Mainly that's because a lot of a product's function comes FROM the interface, but there are all sorts of other good reasons, too... Like consistency with other products, ease of documentation and maintenance, modularity and portability, cross-platform compatibility, etc.
You may find it instructive to read Bruce Tognazzini or Jef Raskin, or even Joel Spolsky. Also, 37signals -- known for their high-quality web apps -- has written a book on application design called "Getting Real". An excerpt from the book -- an essay called "Design the Interface First" -- is here:
http://gettingreal.37signals.com/samples/37s-interface-first.pdf
And... If you're a programmer, you undoubtedly have a copy of The Mythical Man-Month on your bookshelf. Re-read chapter 4, in which Brooks discusses the absolute importance of conceptual integrity and describes how to achieve it by doing the architecture before anything else. Brooks explains, "By the 'architecture' of a system, I mean the complete and detailed specification of its user interface."
Finally... If you want to see the basic argument for the primacy of the user interface not just in software, but in everything else, too, the classic work is The Design of Everyday Things, by Donald A. Norman. You should read it; it'll make your work better:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0465067107/
Uh dude-you are way over the top.
Uh dude-you are way over the top. I'm sorry if I damaged your delicate male ego, so much so that you felt the need to bore everyone to death with a ton of links, but get over yourself already. Geez!
I was talking strictly about what MIT focuses on teaching in their Technology Program. It's open-source based, and they work with Linux Ubuntu in Africa developing resuable content for educational purposes so any information from any school could be seen on any machine. They offer free open-source classes to ANYONE. And guess what...most aren't mac compatable. Geez, I'm not talking what a freshman undergrad's mommy bought them for xmas, and what the school supports from software. It's MIT man, they support EVERYTHING!
And MAC did NOT invent the integrated motherboard. The reason they could develop a case first is because the technology was already there. I think Gateway even had a crazy slim version when Macs were the size of a tv set.
Honestly, I don't even remember any of the rest of the crap you wrote since I can't see it from here, but chill out. You're kinda creepy, and I'm afraid you're crying in a corner hugging your mac.
Woody, it's just preference as far as a design. Any of the pcs I posted, if one component went out, the whole machine wouldn't be a wash. I dig that way more than something that turns into a doorstop with 99% of its hardware issues. 🙂 But they do make really pretty doorstops when that happens.
fastfwd might be my hero...
fastfwd might be my hero now.
And, yes, some unfortunate looking machines. The Alienware he mentioned looks like a bad pair of 90s sneakers.
You know what, sue me. I care how products look. Especially a big hunk of technology that is peering it's head into my surroundings almost 24 hours a day. I work and play on one every day. Why shouldn't I care about its aesthetic? Is this not DESIGN Addict?
I making a living on a Mac. I like using it. I like looking at it. It rarely fails, and it gets the job done. I suppose I should just buy a chair for its function too? Well sure, let's just go buy a pleather lay-z-boy then. And perhaps I'll just wear a muumuu to work. It covers my manliness just fine. Why even comb my hair? Function is all that matters, after all. If that is true, I trust you are wearing your Velcro shoes, then. They fasten much smarter than laces.
Or do I pay a ridiculous amount of money for a beautiful piece of design? One that even perhaps is a tad less comfy than its neanderthal cousin, Mr. Lay-z-boy? I do. I also buy Macs. Smart aesthetics does have a cost. Your denial of that is quite disrespectful to designers. I suppose you think you can pay your graphic designer who creates the packaging for your beloved computers with a milkshake and a pat on the arse?
If the design is so unimportant why are you here?
Can u guys read?
I said they absolutely look nice. In the very first thread he stated his friend said he paid for design. He was asking why there are no modern design pcs. I think we all realize the answer is because PCs are a fourth of the cost. There are modern PCs, but they are larger, and some people only define modern as skinny and one piece. That's because despite your raving review of liking how it looks, and it gets you paid, and yours happens to not break....that's not the company history. After that initial question, that's when other members started saying such stupid things about how the majority of people use macs, and how they're the best and safest. Also the most expensive and unaccessable. So ya, with a MAC you're paying for design. You people are so sensitive over a piece of metal that will be obsolete in a few years. Don't question my reasons for being here. I happen to have a gorgeous mid-century collection. That's why I'm here, and was tired of people who know design and nothing tech talk about how a MAC performs as well as it looks. I've never seen the forum go off tangent on a tech subject before, so as far as my interests on design....I actually care about something that isn't here for...?...Oh a minute. LOL. You're actually comparing a Mac to a piece of gorgeous furniture or artwork. Morons. LOL. Who keeps a computer or finds out it increased in value?
Apple is the second most expensive company in the world!
Apple's market cap as I write is 229 billion dollars. It's only second to Exxon. Can you imagine what the stock will do it it captures another, let's say 5% of the PC market.
How did they do that jenoside?
P.S. I sure hope you understand what market capitalization means?
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