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LuciferSum
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30/09/2008 4:01 am  

Hey Seth
Are you a Boston boy? We need more DAs from the area!


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PasternakAntiqu...
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07/10/2008 8:45 pm  

to those that like the chair...
to those that like the chair or at least understand the feeling of not wanting something that thousands of other individuals have, thank you. i encourage all of you to customize your own pieces, whether a $5 chair from a yard sale or a mid century classic!
Ebay: when i list items on ebay i do it for exposure (because i don't have a retail shop), NOT to sell stuff and pay absolutely ridiculous paypal and ebay fees. that being said a large percentage of items sell off of ebay from the listings, inlcuding this custom eames chair.
To address the criticism of the 'quality of art' or 'creativity': I'm not in the business of being a struggling artist nor do i have any interest employing other artists whose work is not marketable. i'm in the business of making money and thankfully, i've figured out how to do it in creative ways. if this means creating and selling work that doesn't meat certain design-snobs (of which there are MANY on this fabulous forum) level of taste, i'm perfectly ok with that. when enthusiastic buyers quit knocking on my door i'll quit selling pieces so many of you thumb your nose at.
seth roberts: if your 'partner' got a rude response, he/she probably asked the type of question (you know the kind) which i have absolutely no tolerance for.


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whitespike
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07/10/2008 9:21 pm  

How, exactly, do you "meat" s...
How, exactly, do you "meat" something?
I am all for making money. It takes money to live. But, admittedly you create art for this sole purpose. To people that have been around art and design for a while, this fact is evident. Discerning eyes usually prefer inspired works ... not those created simply for a buck.
To each his own, but for some reason (I can't put my finger on it) I find this kind of coattail riding a little offensive. No offense to you on a personal level of course. If I were attacking you personally it would have to be with something unique to yourself, whereas my feelings on the subject would be the same regardless of who created the piece.


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whitespike
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07/10/2008 9:27 pm  

I do have to add that calling...
I do have to add that calling people a "snob" is a personal attack. I won't take any offense to it, but I thought I'd point it out.
I prefer to call it "informed," but that just makes me sound like a snob! Sorry, it's just that if a seasoned design appreciator wanted something "new, not like what everyone else has" I think they would just opt for a newly designed chair ... perhaps a Gcric or something else contemporary. With this train of thought I could simply recover a womb chair in fruit roll-ups and call it new.


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LuciferSum
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07/10/2008 11:32 pm  

Used car salesman
Whitespike has put his finger on it- it's coattail riding. It doesnt matter whether its "Wassily Chair wallpaper" or "Barcelona Chair T-Shirts" or screeprints on an Eames shell. Congratulations, you can use photoshop and pull a screen print. And lord knows it can be difficult to print on a curved surface.
I think, Jeremiah, that you're missing some of the more constructive criticism in the group. Criticism which you should have gotten used to and learned to value at art school. Nobody is suggesting that you shouldn't make money, but money isnt the simple be-all/end-all factor in either art or design. If you want to make money go design office cubicles. Or paint landscapes. Both fields are fairly saleable.
However, if you're interested in being creative take some of the advice here and apply it. Push yourself beyond the easy road: icon + surface treatment = one time gag.
Otherwise you're going to be just another used car salesman trying to gimick your way into profit.


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