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29/11/2007 9:39 pm  

luicfersum
ts funny how you use the term "being human" to describe your willingness to buy a knock-off clock. You assume that "being human" means you have certain rights that you enjoy - the right to vote, the right to a safe workplace, the right to a living wage. You also have the right to post on this website, the right to engage in free speech and debate.
Lucifersum I was going to respond with some smart ass clever statement. but in a word or two...
YOU ARE RIGH!!!
no excuse for buying anything from the Chinese, but the part that says Human means that is what i am, not perfect, yes more than likely hypocritical to what I think and believe, to sell out for a cheap 200 fix,or savings, not worth it i guess, very politician of me to talk out of both sides of my mouth like Clinton,Bush,and others to appease the moment,
maybe it is a good thing that there are people like you out there, keep up the good fight as you are more than likely a great person,


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29/11/2007 10:31 pm  

Fungus Mungus i just call...
Fungus Mungus i just called all world and talk to Ricky and they said they just got a new shipment in believe me design addict victims, those are great prices for those clocks and make great Christmas gifts. I paid 125 two nights ago and it is in shipping right now or i would have cancelled and bought three for friends, I thought i was getting a good deal from white and these guys sell it for 42. (3x) like diamonds . If i did not own them all ( yes mine are all from Vitra and Howard Miller ) i had to pay the premium cause i had to have them last year )
I wish i could say Lucifersum i feel so good that i bought from Vitra made in Germany but I just can't, i just feel foolish that i blew 2 grand buying clocks that would have cost be 300.00 total and looked the same,
I would be buying these clocks for christmas presents for my self or friends . I did ask the guy on the phone the origin of the clocks since he was unpacking them when i called and they do not say any thing about China but you have to figure were would they be coming from other than there, i doubt from sunny downtown L.A. (would that make it any better if they were from downtown L.A. as that is where Moderica makes all of there stuff,


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29/11/2007 10:36 pm  

this has been a great thread
as you all can read this has been a great thread and most helpful . some agree some don't but it has made it that all can find a great value, through ones sharing information,
This is what makes this forum great that we can share information that can be helpful to all of us, and hopefully save us some money,


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30/11/2007 1:26 am  

All World
All world just got a huge shipping container in and was in the process of unloading it when I was there. They are also going to have an AJ table lamp that I'd like to see the quality. The clocks are not on the website and you need to call. If it makes you feel better, look at the White on White pictures when ordering. They are open until 8pm Pacific Standard USA time.
The center of the clock is metal and what seems to be hollow balls. These clocks are not the quality of Vitra, when you buy the Vitra you get solid wood balls, German quartz, better meaterials, resell value in brand, and a level of authenticity. You can also look over a Vitra and be please with every aspect(I have had 6 Vitra and sold them). But they look good(except the too shiny Turbine, I have the Vitra to compare) and most are 1/6 the price.
http://www.allworldfurniture.com


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30/11/2007 1:42 am  

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how is the sunburst spike clock that sells for 52 bucks and the eye clock? Is the sunburst spike all wood ? with a metal center, It seems to look just like the white on white with nice wood in center is this correct?
Thanks for checking this out for all of us and the heads up on the shiny turbine clock, they all cannot be perfect, and of course nothing on the website yet but Ricky said they would be tonight but for what they cost what the hell , I know Vitra is the best but this is just for decorative purposes and not for collecting, and if i was collecting i still don't know if I would invest that heavy in the Vitra collection, no telling what that will be worth,
I have several originals from the 50's and I have to be honest with everyone they are a real dissapointment cause they just don't run and i do not want to cut the cords and put quartz movements in cause i feel that would be sac religious. I have taken them to clock shops that work on Howard miller clocks and they can replace the movement with wide ups( i hate those )
but have a real problem fixing the original movement or putting a new electric in they just want to put in a 5.00 hobby lobby special from China,
so I leave them on the wall but as any one who collects clocks knows the fun thing is see them run, so a old knock off with good design bones is not so bad!!!


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30/11/2007 1:52 am  

SunBurst
I wasn't able to get close to the sunburst clock, the display was on the wall behind the counter. It did look nice.


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30/11/2007 2:01 am  

Alphaville
Something I learned, Alphaville is not a manufacturer, they are just a middleman. They do tend to be more picky when chosing what they are going to import.


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30/11/2007 2:23 am  

i have a friend in Arizon...
i have a friend in Arizona who sells there products and they are trying to clean their act up big time and become real picky who they do business with and get a way from the Internet shops in favor of the old brick and morter shops,
They are a big time middleman who have connections with 10 factories in China and they do have people from the company that all they do is canvas the factories to see that this stuff is made right.
they check out the clock makers, lamp makers, chrome makers, and wood good makers, so they have a finger it all.
Shame they don't work with the United Nations on Human rights, would that be cool but you know that would never happen cause they are looking for the cheapest deal they can make,
My friend tells me after 5 years of dealing with them he has had no real problems but on occasion some stuff does come in wrong like the nelson bench was the wrong wood color, and the company made them all right, and refunded everyones money (but the funny thing was almost all the customers wanted it cause it was so good looking and did not look like the fakey blond wood reproductions it looked like a vintage Herman miller from the 50s
I thought that was a great story,
All of the Barcelona chairs were made to identical specs but i was told there is a big hold up on them as the lawsuits are beginning to fly , they call it the Pavilion chair and for the time being are not shipping that chair to the vendors (very interesting in my opinion)
You would like to think that Alphaville is the best out there as they have made a mark on trying to sell good quality reproductions. i just wish they would go visit Argentina, or Italy, to find other vendors who can make this stuff with a better reputation,


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30/11/2007 4:40 pm  

i saw this on ebay it is...
i saw this on ebay it is a watermellon desk clock and i noticed the clock was made in Poland any of our friends in Europe care to explain what Poland is like? are they fair with there labor force?
I am sure any thing is better than china, Poland seems to make a first rate product in their clocks as no one can complain about the quality is any of the other vitra stuff made in Poland


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30/11/2007 4:50 pm  

minatures
I do not collect minatures thank g-d for that
as i would have to have every one, but I did look at ebay and saw that Vitra makes them all and they seem like they sell almost for as much as the large chair, whats the deal? any one know that could be a expensive little hobby and un functional


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30/11/2007 10:09 pm  

James
did you get your other clocks
for 322.00 you could make a great looking wall display like Joels house that looks so cool...
I have mine displayed all around the room as it is my answer to boarder paper,(not really boarder paper is gross)
but if you did buy them all from Vitra you would have several thousand dollars and white on white at least 900.00 worth of clocks, Did you see the block clock?
I have all the others so i really cant take advantage of the great prices, thanks for all the info,


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30/11/2007 11:22 pm  

LRF
My Wife and I are looking towards making a clock wall with the replica's(and our Vitra Turbine), we have the perfect wall to plywood(need to cover an annoyingly placed window) and hang them. I really like the way you have you clocks, they look great. I didn't see the replica block clock either, they will hopefully have that container unloaded soon and everything on diplay.


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01/12/2007 7:06 am  

james
i called them today and visted with them, they remember you and told me the company that distributes these clocks is based out of Italy, and the rep came through and they all loved all the clocks he had in the line but not astrick or block clocks at this time,
, This company also deals with Alphaville so they are skilled and schooled in the world of reproductions, but they said these clocks are a big hit for them, side bar
I guess so if you sell them that cheap why not be a sport and buy them all...
you could not get that cool of a piece of art work for 300 bucks and those will look great on your walls,


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01/12/2007 9:23 am  

Clocks
They are nice clocks and anyone worried about ordering from them should think twice. Like I said before, look at the white on white pictures and then order them from All World. You can't lose at the quality and prices(I sound like a TV ad). A lot of the furniture they sell is not my thing, more ultra modern, but all of his classics are higher quality reproductions. They also source out stuff on their own and skip the middleman(I.E. Alphaville). Basically you can have a really nice clock wall for around $250-$300 USD. If you ever descide to sell, you could easily get your money back on Ebay at these prices.


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01/12/2007 4:39 pm  

hope we all live long eno...
hope we all live long enough and find out they bring the same amount as t he Vitra clocks,
I hate that ultra modern crap furniture that i see at some stores in Dallas, i just don't get it, I will stick with the classics, and mostly vintage,


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