whitespike
i just measured the original ball clock from 1956 to the one that i got from Howard miller the new howard millers are a little larger but i find that not so unusual.
I think it was more than likely when they retooled it and they tried to make it more marketable
anybody know about the astrick clock
i have the howard miller also in that one ,
I can not see why anyone would want the vitra in that one cause it is just like the howard miller with exception that the minute hand is smaller, and about 200. cheaper.
Asterisk
is nothing like the Vitra version. The Howard Miller is significantly bigger. The hands are slightly different (more flimsy). The metal body is not as heavy gauged. The backing is more shallow (which I noticed that it makes the shadows behind it less exaggerated).
A great clock for $50. I have it. But it isn't the same.
I had some vitra clocks and...
I had some vitra clocks and really like them. No, I didn't pay more than $150 for each, with the exception of $190 shipped on the eye clock. No sagging on mine (even that I don't understand how it's going to sag, since the bars are thick brass!) maybe they dropped as that it's a possibility. Love them. All I need is the steering clock and I'm done.
The kite clock is great (don't have it) but it's not flat. Sideways, the two panels are set at an angle.
-joel
clocks
Here are just a few of my clocks that i have displayed in my office and love them all
three are from Vitra the ball clock was thew first the red clock and the steering wheel, the astrick is from Howard Miller I still think it is great for the money and i bet at then end of the day the value will still be there
Always a risk buying knockoffs.
A friend just bought a knockoff Sunburst clock (against my recommendations). The photo showed an exact replica of the Nelson, but when the actual clock arrived it was pure crap. It was made out of cheap sheet metal, the proportions were all fkd up and the hands were oddly colored. It bore absolutely NO resemblance to the clock in the photo she had seen on the website, which was more than likely a photo stolen from Vitra or DWR.
I don't understand how the...
I don't understand how the current Howard Miller clocks being produced by the original manufacturer adds anything to the authenticity or intrinsic value. It is still a knock off. The Howard Miller website even refers to the clocks as 'adaptations'.
For clocks from Vitra:
"The Vitra Design Museum presents a re-edition of the designs so cherished by collectors - in a true-to-the-original form. Collection Vitra Design Museum."
For clocks from Howard Miller:
"This retro clock is an adaptation of a classic George Nelson design that was first produced by Howard Miller in the 1940?s"
podboy
don't get hung up on verbiage
Howard miller is the maker of clocks and if you have a clock that is a ball clock or astrick by Howard miller how can you go wrong?
Just cause they reintroduced those clocks is no difference than Vitra. I have them both and i see no difference in owning one over the other, I personally like owning the Millers cause they made the first series, that we call original these are just another series, but none the less inferior or less original, now if the Nelson clocks were made by the Target company I would have to
take another look but, every clock you get that is designed by Michael Graves will have the same worth as Nelson clock 50 years from now and one of his clocks is in a very prestigious book i own called World design
Hear, Hear, LRF (or is it Here, Here)
When Herman Miller 'reintroduced' all of those previously discontinued pieces, alterations were made to the materials, and yes, even to some of the parts. Are they original?
Who cares?
All these years that Fritz Hansen has produced the Jacobsen Swan and Egg chairs, don't you think they made some changes to them? Certainly the stuffing ain't the same.
There MIGHT be a designation to be made between something that has continuously manufacutered all these years, and pieces that have been discontinued and later reintroduced.
I guess you could say that none of the Mies van de Rhoe pieces produced by Knoll are original, since they took over production from the 1930's European makers.
Heck, some of the Aalto Artek pieces were originally made by Thonet before Artek was started.
Getting back to the clocks, all of the Vitra's as well as as the two Howard Miller's have completely different motor movements, taking a AA battery, not the C battery. There ain't no electrics or wind-ups anymore. Are they original?
Does it all come down to what term are you going to use?
I wish there was a drop-dead accepted batch of terms for each variant in a piece's manufacturered history.
Reissue?
Original?
Reintroduction?
Knockoff?
New version?
The list is (appparently) endless. And until there is some aggreed-to standardization, then these conversations will continue without end.
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