Nelson eye clock 1  

I got some more...
This can get really long... I keep finding more and more!
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You so get the Howard Miller...
You so get the Howard Miller Clock archive award of the day

Joel super
Joel these are great and with a great graphic artist like you i would love to see a cool poster and a cool calender , bigger than your other poster and I would like mine to be signed Number 1
for you other addicts if you do not know Joel is by far one of the most talented graphic designers i have seen I love his poster, I wonder if you have to get some kinda clarance from Howard Miller or the Nelson estate on these for a great poster Vitra style, if you know what I mean,

i wonder how many of ...
i wonder how many of these great clocks came out of the nelson office
the others I guess came from the designers of Howard miller clock company, the unnamed soldiers who carried the banner during the hayday of the mid century modern period , for Howard Miller.
For the love of me. Why can't Howard miller reissue them instead of Grandfather clocks?????
what do you think is happening with this great ICON of a company???? why no interest

thought 3
I an really getting more curious than anything
I wonder if the 10 Vitra choice to re introduce like the kite,eye,spike,ball,astrick,steering wheel,turbine,block, spindle and several different color variations how that all came about? and why they made those and left some other great ones behind,

Book+Poster=Pefect
Would love to see an inclusion of poster with book.
My perspective on an ideal layout for the book, simple and straight forward, includes...
Designer, contributing designers (bios too)
design influences
design conception & manf./release year
rarity with number amount produced
types of each clock + sub-rarity of(corded, wind, battery, short cord, coal, firewood etc, free energy...)
materials used
animals used for testing?
anything else relevant
A definitive Howard Miller MCM clock reference/historical book.
Then within all that, a wonderful picture poster

WoofWoof
yes with Pam Anderson holding the clocks right?

the ...
the spindle,block,spike,ball,eye,kite,astrick,steering wheel,
turbine,
I believe and have known to be wrong.
I think that these were the only ones that Vitra reintroduced in the last 10 years from the Nelson Estate
anybody have any idea why they did not introduce any of the cool ones that Joel posted.
I would love to own some of those and have seen about 8 of those on ebay in the last year, go for around 200 to 400. not like the one i posted for 2700. from
1st dibs

My reply from Howard Miller
I got this reply from Howard Miller:
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Thank you for your interest in Howard Miller. Unfortunately, we do not have the type of information you are requesting as we do not have a formal, database-driven archive with photography and past sales information.
Mark Siciliano
Director of Marketing
Howard Miller Company
616-772-9131 Ext. 219siciliano@howardmiller.com
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In other words, I got told
p*ss off
hit the road
g'won
also know as "I got the big Go-By".
Helpful and useful company, aren't they?

Sounds like...
Sounds like Howard Miller is as worthless to the consumer as Herman Miller. How can these people have set the way and made the greatest classics without keeping any information.

more from Howard Miller
I replied to the above reply, suggested that the blow off and got this reply:
Hello:
I apologize for the inconvenience. If you are still interested in print reproductions of a few of the GN clocks, we can certainly research what we may have, and will try to accommodate.
However,
We have limited, and in most cases, incomplete archives of the George Nelson clocks that were in the product line at that time.
Unfortunately, we do not have proper archives of the following:
- archived print photography of all of the GN clocks
- complete print catalogs from the period
- a sales history of GN units sold during that time
- historical pricing information
- historical documentation of the GN partnership
- copies of ideas, sketches, etc.
- no high-res digital archives of any historical product
- no photo history of principle personalities during that period (i.e. Howard Miller and George Nelson, etc.)
We get many requests like this from publishers every year. In the past, we have tried to reproduce black and white prints and catalog pages. The materials continue to be refused due to the poor print quality of second and third generation prints. We do not disagree, as we understand printing. Our intentions were not to be difficult.
Please advise.
Mark Siciliano
Director of Marketing
Howard Miller Company
616-772-9131 Ext. 219siciliano@howardmiller.com
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I replied with this forum thread so he can see what we're talking about.

follow-up
I called this gentleman and he was very nice, but explained the problem.
For good or bad, Howard Miller does not have much historical organized archive data from the George Nelson years. They have no relationship with either Herman Miller or the George Nelson estate.
It's apparent that Herman Miler connected up the George Nelson estate and Vitra to reproduce clocks. The current ball clock and recently discontinued asterick clock from HOWARD Miller are NOT official George Nelson designs, but are slightly altered to be "inspired" by the originals. They're 100% legal, but not quite actual reproductions.
So, one would hopefully assume that the George Nelson estate would be the starting point for research on historically compiling all Nelson clocks produced by Howard Miller. I don't know how much stuff the estate might have, and I do not know how to contact them, either.
So, Howard Miller tried to be helpful, but they're apparently not the correct place to start the research.

Vitra
When researching my house I found that the George Nelson archives were being held by the Vitra Design Museum. My contact, who was VERY helpful was Andreas Nutz. His contact information is:
Andreas Nutz
Vitra Design Museum
Charles Eames Straße 1
D-79576 Weil am Rhein
tel +49.7621-702.3575 fax .4575
mail: andreas.nutz@design-museum.de
They hold Photogaphs, technical sketches etc...in microfilm form and originals and were happy to make copies for a small fee. I don't know how deep their holdings are as I was only interested in Nelson architecture.
Syracuse University also holds some of the Nelson archives although I do not think that any are of his clock designs.

Old political saying
Follow the money.
Just an idea for a savvy sleuth. Surely there are old catalogs laying about.
For multiple reasons, I'm sure something like this is prone to stonewalling by various parties...ie Howard/Herman Miller...Nelson estate etc... Push the right buttons I suppose.

thanks guys this has all ...
thanks guys this has all been helpful for me cause i was trying to g et a outline together but I can see howard miller is not the place to start i wonder if i can get a hold of Jacquline Nelson, since the Nelson office does not exsist any more,