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nico leo
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15/12/2013 9:30 pm  

I just saw this posting on ebay and thought all would get a kick out of it. There is a punchline but I won't give it away.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Nelson-Daybed-By-Herman-Miller-1950s-Mid-Century-Modern-/271347474775?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2d91e157


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NULL NULL
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15/12/2013 9:44 pm  

Well
Aside from the Charles Eames medallion, I don't believe that is a Herman Miller Nelson daybed.


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objectworship
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15/12/2013 10:13 pm  

Wow
Another scumbag seller. Get a rope.


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nico leo
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15/12/2013 11:34 pm  

wrong
right, Charles Eames medallion on what he is claiming is a George Nelson daybed...lol
everything about this piece is wrong though.
This seller is a total crook and is attempting to deceive a novice buyer.


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fastfwd
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16/12/2013 2:38 am  

I'm giving this seller the benefit of the doubt.
I think she's just repeating what she was told when she bought the thing.


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mafbail
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16/12/2013 2:42 am  

And now the listing has been...
And now the listing has been closed: "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." Maybe the crookety crook reads this forum?


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fastfwd
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16/12/2013 4:14 pm  

Or...
The honest seller was informed of her error, so she did the right thing and took the listing down. Perhaps the daybed will reappear on Ebay with a better description soon.


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cdsilva
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16/12/2013 6:27 pm  

You guys are harsh. I think...
You guys are harsh. I think FF is on the right track.
If you are such a devious and dishonest seller, who is trying to hoodwink buyers into believing a generic piece is instead a valuable one by a well-known and well-documented designer, I don't think you'd be so stupid as to paste on a medallion by a different designer, then highlight that medallion in a closeup photo.
And looking at the seller's other non mid-century listings, it can be easy to envision how they may have been previously duped by someone else, and simply listed the information that they were given when they decided to sell it themselves.


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objectworship
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16/12/2013 9:41 pm  

Harsh or not-
When "mistakes" like this are made in the context of stupidity and greed, they are highly unlikely to be "honest" ones-
and cannot be considered forgivable even if the "mistake" is made in ignorance.
Sellers have a responsibility to verify the accuracy of their listings.
Think about what happens if there is such inaccuracy in the professions of medicine or law or journalism...
It is malpractice.


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blink
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16/12/2013 10:58 pm  

and buying a vintage daybed...
and buying a vintage daybed is just as important as saving someones life with an illness. (sarcasm) I don't see how the comparison is valid at all.
Cmon, some perspective would be nice.


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objectworship
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16/12/2013 11:47 pm  

So blink,
in your opinion, only certain professions mandate professionalism.
I expect better when I do business.
So should you.


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cdsilva
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17/12/2013 12:08 am  

"Lighten up, Francis."
You're spinning a story that isn't there.
If you go to the eBay seller's feedback and take a quick glance, you'll see that he/she has sold exactly two items in 2013: a Nike "fuel band" and "17 Sky Lanterns", the latter for a whopping $10.
I don't think they are in the mid-century fraud business (or any "business" as you state), but rather an independent person clueless about what they have. Save your sanctimony for someone who deserves it.


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blink
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17/12/2013 12:43 am  

objectworship -
Why don't...
objectworship -
Why don't you have a drink, relax and step back from the ledge. I was only stating that your comparison of a mistake by a furniture seller in an ebay ad with a physician's hippocratic oath seemed a bit over the top.
I guess for you, it obviously isn't. By all means carry on then...


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objectworship
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17/12/2013 1:37 am  

OH GIVE ME A BREAK
I'm not even close to any type of any ledge, figurative or otherwise.
And yes, this discussion has been run into the ground, but please consider and answer the question...
The item is headlined "George Nelson Daybed By Herman Miller". It is clearly not a "George Nelson Daybed By Herman Miller" and it is clearly wrongfully labeled with a Charles Eames medallion.
If the seller was truly, obliviously unaware, how on Earth did they see the CHARLES EAMES label and make the jump to the GEORGE NELSON attribution with this presumed aforementioned lack of knowledge?
That seems a bit too double-dumb to jive.
caveat emptor, as always-


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fastfwd
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17/12/2013 1:56 am  

Stupidity, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from malice.
But in this case, "stupidity" is even too harsh; I'd just call it ignorance.
Objectworship, we live in a world where there exist such objects as the "Wassily chair by Knoll, designed by Marcel Breuer". How is a non-expert seller to know that there's no such thing as a "Nelson daybed by Herman Miller, designed by Charles Eames"?
The medallion is of course non-original. Maybe it was added by a dishonest previous seller, or maybe by someone who just thought it was funny. It almost certainly wasn't added by the current seller.


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