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Home Kit
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10/03/2016 2:04 am  

I have a set of these. The circular makers mark disc has come off.... Does anyone know how much this devalues.... No doubt re identification.... Has the circular inset where label should be too. any opinions welcome. Thanks, charlotte


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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10/03/2016 8:06 am  

Alright, the medallion is its identification, but that is missing, yet you say there is "no doubt re identification".
So prove to the forum beyond a doubt that the tables are "Johannes Andersen... for Silkeborg," as you say, and you will be a long ways toward answering your own question.


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12/03/2016 2:58 am  

Well, I don' t feel the need to prove it to ' the forum' as I am not trying to sell on here, was just asking an opinion, in a friendly/ 'people interested in the same things' capacity! I think you must have missed my point! My question was ' to what degree does the missing badge devalue' I know the tables are what I say, because when I bought them, they had the badge... It came out and is now lost.
Thanks for the comments anyway,
Regards Charlotte


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12/03/2016 7:01 am  

My apologies, I was not trying to be unfriendly but I was clearly too brusque. I have failed.
Your question is basically unanswerable because it isn't really the whole question (it lacks essential information to answer it), and this makes it the wrong question to be asking. Or another way of puting it, if you were to ask the right question you would have you answer.
But let's start back at beginning. You want to know how much devalued your table is by having lost its manufacture's medallion. Effectively it has lost its identification. So something else is going to have to identify it. Imagine you lose your drivers license. How can you identify yourself? Ah but you have your passport: problem solved.
So let's apply that principle to the table. You say there is "no doubt". However I would point out two problems there. First you said it is manufactured by Silkeborg. I will guess you say this because the medallion had "Silkeborg" written on it. The problem is the medallion also had "CFC" written on it. CFC is the name of the company. Silkeborg is the name of a place in Denmark where the company was located. (And CFC is a later version of the company name which before had been CF Christensen).
Second you said it was designed by Johannes Andersen. I know of no reliable proof of this. Don't get me wrong it seems quite possible, but not to the point of "no doubt" by any means. The best support for it that I know of is that Johannes Andersen is listed as the designer of the nesting table in the Danish Furniture Index. Unfortunately that information comes from Lauritz in this listing, which makes it just about the worst sort of listing on the furniture index. Lauritz is no authority.
So when you assert yourself and your information as the table's alternate form of identification, it comes off like you are handing over your social security card, telling us it is your passport, and it isn't quite legible whether the social security card actually says the name you answer to. This does not mean you aren't actually who you say you are but in this imaginary scenario you just sold yourself very short in the eyes of the authority who wants your identification.
This selling yourself short is exactly what might happen to the table. I asked you to effectively try and prove the table's identity to me because then I might actually have the necessary information to answer your question. In other words, if you were unable to sell the table here as what it is/might be, then your buyer is likely to pay accordingly.
So now, since we have established a few things, how might we go about providing this table with a passport since the poor fellow seems to have lost his driver's license?


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12/03/2016 7:25 pm  

Here is an old Bruun-Rasmussen listing (tile top version) that they note as model #287. However no source is provided.
http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?pg=1&iid=300822128&cid=55537&mod...
My Smile coffee table by JA for CFC is model #206, so the nomenclature for the number at least matches.
Home Kit, your arena of sales will have a much greater impact on the value (sales price) of your tables, versus whether the medallion is still there. E.g. An unmarked set on 1stdibs will go for much higher than a marked one on craigslist. There are also too many other variables to say how much value a medallion adds, if any.


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12/03/2016 7:37 pm  

And from the Buy and Sell right here on DA:
http://www.designaddict.com/buy-and-sell/Furniture/coffee-side-tables/Pa...
The last digit on the stamp number is hard to read, but I think it says "No. 274"
Perhaps the all wood version was 274, with the tile top being 278.


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Home Kit
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15/03/2016 11:26 pm  

Thank you cdsilva, for your helpful comments.
kind regards
Charlotte


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Home Kit
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15/03/2016 11:40 pm  

Thank you for your comments leif ericson,
Apology not necessary, I am always pleased on any forum when people take the time to respond. i don't feel the need to argue with your complex analogies, but at the same time, if I'm totally honest there is something a little antagonistic in your approach... Forgive me if that comment offends. I am just a little 'taken aback'. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to reply..
kInd regards
Charlotte


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15/03/2016 11:58 pm  

cdsilva, I've had a look at your links.... Thanks. The missing label is not the end of the world I suppose. I have a shop in Essex, U.K., where I sell things, some new, some old.... Modernist in style. I know the provenance of the tables, but I just wondered what sort of price tag to put on them in my shop. It doesn't really matter though, as luckily I got them for £12!!! Anyway, I'm new to the forum and it's really nice when people take the time to respond, thanks again.
kind regards
Charlotte


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Home Kit
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16/03/2016 12:06 am  

Btw, do you think the prices on 1st dibs and also panomo, are real? iVe always been amazed at the high prices! If people really do fetch those figures good on them. I could never fetch those prices with my items, but I'm also pleased that I am able to sell Midcentury items Without a ridiculous price tag.
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