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LRF
 LRF
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27/07/2007 4:18 am  

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My humble opinion is that this modern world is in dire need of some serious regression.
Not trying to take your remarks out of context please explain why you feel that way ? I feel this modern world is changing on a hourly basis, I just pray that it can change for the better and go forward and not go back to some of the horrible things that we have experience in the past, 100 years ,


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room606
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27/07/2007 5:21 am  

sake, please
LRF, that would take about three bottles of sake and a lot of patience to fully answer. Within the context of this forum, I think of it terms of the problem of postmodernism. The problem being that postmodernism occurred prematurely. We hadn't fully figured step A before moving on to step B. Have you noticed that bored people tend to have a lot of charisma they can tap into? Once they get bored, it kicks in and there surfaces a spirit of momentum that is difficult to ignore. I define boredom as the result of an unwillingness to do the work. I think postmodernism came about as a result of this. And I think the world today suffers from it - badly. I look at flat screen TVs and entertainment devices such as the iphone (I don't care who designed them) as some current manifestations of today's tense tired postmodernism. How many people do you know who are unhappy but somehow apologoize for how things are because, well, because... Anyway, there are things to do, yes? Of course, for christsake, get real!
The world is, in my opinion, in a perpetual Groundhog Day, where that something that went wrong long ago was never corrected. As a result of an unwiullingness to go retrograde in order to correct it, real progress is an illusion.
Anyhow, the solutions are quite painful and this is where the sake fits into it (we read about what needs to get done in the paper almost every day now and tend to aha them or put them somewhere onto the todo list). Then, after the sake, work should follow.
In terms of design, I tend to stop looking around 1970. I think values became boring around that time - they were defined as constricting, too limiting. The corporation of the USA emerged and throway culture was created. That gave work to designers, architects, CEOs and garbage men. My guess is, somewhere around that time a correction was ignored and a lot of what has become our infrastructure since that time must be regressed, in order to move on. Nobody wans to do that. It's easier and more fun to just make something else.


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finch
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27/07/2007 5:51 am  

NEW!
Why is it considered retro or regression to prefer the design principles or aesthetics that were arrived at 50 years ago? When a performer decides on track 6 out of a fifteen take session, does that mean it's retro or going backwards?
I only ask because I get a lot of that from people...they think I like the old stuff for the sake of it being old -- a purely stylistic quirk rather than a read, philosophical predilection.
I think it's Western civilization's obession with NEWNESS that bugs me the most.


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LRF
 LRF
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27/07/2007 6:36 am  

room 606
I will agree i think the best design did stop around 1970 , and i agree with you about postmodern a big mistake who ever said it was post modern ?????????? that makes no sense to me at all.


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dcwilson
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27/07/2007 8:05 am  

Gads, yes, it was Kundera...
I was reading about Czeslaw Milosz and just did one of those strange transpositions that increase with age. My apologies.


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NULL NULL
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27/07/2007 3:25 pm  

tilanus
Age 35, Amstelveen, The Netherlands. I am Appraiser an Loss Adjuster for machines, equipment and furniture.
Got my degree in Automotive Technologies but already after 2 year went in a completely different direction.
Started out collecting organicly designed furniture,(Paulin, Jacobsen, Aalto, etc.) but turned my attention now more in the direction of Bauhaus. (architecture, furniture, typography, etc.)
I haven't been very active here on the forum lately because I'm building a new house and am overloaded with work. Hopefully soon I will have a bit more time to spare for my hobby's.


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NULL NULL
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27/07/2007 6:17 pm  

Kafka
"They truly treat him like a profit in Prague"
Typo of the month.


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LRF
 LRF
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27/07/2007 8:00 pm  

Prophet
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ProphetProphetProphetProphetProphetProphet
I can't spell and no spell check


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NULL NULL
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27/07/2007 8:18 pm  

Never mind the typo LRF
Just thought it went well with all the Kafka merchandise mentioned earlier.


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LRF
 LRF
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27/07/2007 9:05 pm  

Prophet or profit
I did not realize but he is on all the T shirts, mugs, book bags, in almost every store in St. Wienslet square in Prague .
That would be like Lucy, the marx brothers, and W.C. Fields all wrapped in to one, in our big tourist attractions , like the Warfs in Boston, SanFranscico,NYC,Philly, Baltimore, The stores are all alike


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Gustavo
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29/07/2007 10:10 am  

Gustavo
Gustavo, 39. I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I am architect as degree, today almost full time designer.
I design and produce objects, today mainly lighting fixtures that I sell wholesaler, and retail in my shop in Palermo Viejo neighborhood. Not furniture, (Not succeeded finding good suppliers)
I work with glass (blown glass), metals, chromo, Some fabrics, > some shades.
Before this I’ve been working in: Some architecture studios, engineer studio, did some buildings with them. Some houses and a rehab of a public building with some partner/s. Taught at university. Some nice Real Estate experiences.
About DA, reading a lot (since 2004), thinking much, writing a bit and posting too little from all that.
Interests: Photography, Films, Painting, Graphic Design, Reading and of course architecture and design.
Che Gustavo


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Cloudburst2000
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29/07/2007 11:01 am  

Shannon...
NAME: Shannon
HOME: Lexington, Kentucky USA
PROFESSION: Chemist in the alcohol industry
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Saarinen, Wegner, and Nelson.
MUSIC: I like most types of rock including classic rock, modern rock, punk rock, hard rock (faves include Oasis, The Strokes, The Clash, Pink Floyd, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, David Bowie)
TIDBITS OF INTEREST: Took a semester at sea on a 90ft schooner during college. I have a tattoo of a violet on my ankle. I was a sorority girl during college. I'm a peanut butter addict. My favorite animals are sharks (well, not including my cats, that is). I HATE avacodos and tomatoes. I just finished reading the final Harry Potter installment *sniff*


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LRF
 LRF
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29/07/2007 10:54 pm  

personal welcome
Let me be one of the first to personally welcome you to design addict!! I like it when everyone puts there country in but unfournaly most do not.
I see we have some
old readers from South America I would love to see the rest of the world filled in so we can say it is a world forum rather than international
big difference.


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Cloudburst2000
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30/07/2007 5:53 am  

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome. I've actually been around for about two years or so. I post every so often, but I mostly lurk and try to pick up useful tidbits.


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andee (USA)
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01/08/2007 4:27 am  

having lived thru the 60's...
having lived thru the 60's as a newlywed who had an eye for good design in spite of my youth, i purchased many things that i eventually sold or just got rid of. knoll's tulip chairs being my greatest regret, altho i do have the dining tabe still.
i agree with the point of view that "retro" was timeless compared to some of todays designs.
eames, verner, grey etc will go on and on..


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