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here is the guys response on the Mulhauser chair you be the judge my vote it is still worth 600 to 800 tops i would like to meet the guy who said 2500 to 4000 cause I have some great junk in the warehouse ready to go for him....
Item: Vintage 60's Retro Swivel Chair and Ottoman Plycraft 65 (170133883260)
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pratsbunker is the seller.
We had it appraised after one move and we were told 2500-4000+ if we sent to auction with it. Another estimator wanted to buy it when he saw it on a different move where he was doing other items for us. Based on the attention I got from folks who just saw it I was hanging onto it but have no place for it these days. It's well worth the start price since I'll go to an auctioneer if it doesn't sell here, only listing since I haven't had time w/mil moves to sell this to my max benefit.
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Item: Vintage 60's Retro Swivel Chair and Ottoman Plycraft 65 (170133883260)
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pratsbunker is the seller.
We had it appraised after one move and we were told 2500-4000+ if we sent to auction with it. Another estimator wanted to buy it when he saw it on a different move where he was doing other items for us. Based on the attention I got from folks who just saw it I was hanging onto it but have no place for it these days. It's well worth the start price since I'll go to an auctioneer if it doesn't sell here, only listing since I haven't had time w/mil moves to sell this to my max benefit.

glass artist
"It is my belief that there are far more psychological issues at play in the appreciation of the 670 than its inherent design or engineering qualities and thats fine but i am pretty sure these issues would not be easily tolerated in a scandinavian piece."
No offense taken at all. I guess we all have very different seating habits that's all. While there may be some psychological issues at hand in the apreciation, it's hardly my reason to purchase it, and I assume the same for many others. While I am only 5'10" the back height works for me rather well. I do tend to slouch a little and use this chair for napping and reading. My father, at a whopping 6'4" sleeps in it often when he has sinus issues. He thinks it's rather comfy ... and at his large size. I guess he's really a sloucher!
Hopefully I won't experience the same back detachment problem, and I am not likely to any time soon at all being that mine is only 5 years old. I think that most of the chairs with this problem are rather old and quite used. Still, in a perfect world it would hold up. I get it.
I tried several lounge chairs before I chose mine. I didn't get it because it's an Eames. In fact I had recently ditched my Eames sofa for a Steelcase bc it was rather uncomfortable to me.
The only chairs available to me to try were Knoll and Herman Miller. I didn't live in a big modernist market then, and was lucky to even have those around! I didn't want to choose somthing before trying it. You can't take anyone's word for it either ... like I said, all of our seating habits and physiques are different.
I tried:
The Grasshopper (Modernica reissue of Saarinen) - it was really comfy, but there was no room to alternate seating positions.
Womb - too big for my small abode and the lower back cushion was uncomfortable on my back
Orange Slice - no headrest
Bird Chair - really nice, but a little low to the ground and not quite as comfy as the Eames for long periods.
Those were the only ones I had to try.

and robert
Keep that chair! Good find!
I actually really like the yellow - some people tend to only want black.

BTW
The seller of the original item in question should be ashamed. They are "testing" people's stupidity, which is cruel. They are not testing the market. They can buy any reputable auction catalog and see that people do not pay top dollar for no-name crap. Don't get me wrong there is plenty of good stuff that has no known designer ... but this isn't good. Not for $200 in my opinion. It just looks like overdone knockoff sludge to me. 80K is well above most Eames and Nelson pieces as well! The last designer I saw that got that kind of loot is Carlo Mollino, and this is nothing of that caliber.

Olive!
Ask them about the cat! What's the deal with the cat?!?! Obviously I'm too "bargain/discount class" to understand.
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whitespike
Few things really get me going but the eames 670 really does.....
No doubt the most Iconic chair ever made the greatest of the greatest ..
I have fixed them, sold them , recovered them, but I have to be honest in this international forum it is really one uncomfortable chair!!!!
Now i am the perfect size for the chair 5' 8" and I just find it to ridget, no tilt and no give, Once again I have no idea what Charles was thinking cause he was a tall man.
I have seen some really big 6ft and over guys barely make it out of the chair, and I hate like hell when any one sits in my chair and pulls up on the arms trying to get out of the chair.
Day 3 after my chair was completely restored from head to toe leather, restoration of the wood, and re gluing new shock mounts by a professional, my wife who has to have a reason for every thing, made up her mind that she was going to sit in the museum piece as i call it and
Knit.
on her first bathroom break she pulled up and away went the left arm .. you guessed it , back to the re finisher for 2 more weeks to let the epoxy dry and cure out,
Getting back to the chair, I don't like that it does not tilt
I am so surprised that Eames had the power over Herman miller and Vitra not to allow a 21 century update of the mechanics... I know he died in 78 and Ray in 88 but there are enough of his relatives that could have allowed a minor redo to make it more comfortable for all ,

I saw a Milhauser in a pea...
I saw a Milhauser in a pea green once with a teak sort of look to the wooden bits. Really handsome. Good score.

whitespike
nice assortment to try out. in truth size for my small apt. may be a deal breaker for the mulhauser. its a honker! actually the all over best full lounge (headrest and ottoman) ive found so far is one of the early ekornes stressless sets. the metal framed model that hasnt been made for a long time. they will put you under in no time. and the early metal framed ones look good unlike the formless puffy wood models that you can buy today. best of all you can pick up an old one from the 70s for very little and they are almost always in great shape (probably because they have always been pricey and therefore well cared for).

As I recall reading, Charles ...
As I recall reading, Charles did not like this chair...to put it frankly, he thought it was ugly. It wasn't until much later that he came around to it. making some tweaks here and there to his original design.

I've never
I've never heard that Charles didnt like this chair, and to be honest I dont think the Eames would have sent something to production that they didnt love. The fact that Charles and Ray had this in their house would further indicate that they liked it.
What I have heard is that Ray described the chair as "undesigny", taken to mean that it was simply doing its job and not being self important. Clearly views on the chair have changed.
Ps. I would totally keep the Mulhauser chair. Its such a goofy 70's look. Love it!

Actually, he did. I was...
Actually, he did. I was surprised, too. I have the book somewhere (just moved so books are still in a box) where, in brief, he was not keen on it, but came to revisit it later.
I'll dig the book out later. I certainly have no reason to lie about it. I like the look of the chair myself.

ugly 670
"...But not everyone sang the praises of this chair. It was the antithesis of light, elegant, minimalist, low-cost furniture, and some it as relatively dull, conventional, too solid, opulent, ugly, awkward to move and control, not particularly easty to clean, and far too expensive. In an interview in 1977, Charles Eames commented that it had a "sort of ugliness to it" and noted that he had never considered it as a good solution as the 1946 plywood chairs, "although it has apparently given a lot of pleasure to people."
...As I said, I like the look of it, but it's one of those chairs that seems best suited to the window of a showroom. More sculpture than a chair.

finch
If you will take a look at the Herman miller sight go to the design archives there is a section where he talks to Arleen Francis about how easy it is to put the chair chair together in 15 minutes and it is shown in several books Eames really liked the chair other may say he did not but he was very proud of it , he liked that it was like a first basemens glove soft and subel
He loved when Miller told them they could make the chair in rosewood vs just bent plywood, very few of the chairs in the late 50's or 60's were in any other material other than Rosewood.

Well, it seemed to me that...
Well, it seemed to me that Finch were actually quoting an actual interview with Charles Eames, so maybe he wasn't so happy after all...?
It is one thing to promote the chair you have just designed, and another thing to think back at it, reflect on your earlier work and realize it was maybe not the best design of your career...