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RetroSixty
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11/03/2008 6:39 pm  

Slightly odd question here, but is it possible to obtain original HM stickers anywhere (the 70s/80s style - Black rectangle with silver text) as I have a George Nelson action desk sadly missing the original sticker. It's not really a huge deal but I'd like to find one just to complete it.

I guess I could carefully prize one off one of the many Eames alu chairs if all else fails.

Thanks!


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barrympls
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11/03/2008 7:05 pm  

There are people selling Herman Miller
and Knoll sticker labels on eBay all of the time, but I wonder why people are buying them.
If your piece has the label, cool. If not, what's the big deal?
I suspect some other people are buying those labels and putting them on questionable pieces.


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MarkTulip
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11/03/2008 7:08 pm  

To be perfectly honest OP, I...
To be perfectly honest OP, I think it's rather anal to worry about it - if it's original and you know it is - why bother?


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RetroSixty
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11/03/2008 7:24 pm  

It is very anal! I just like...
It is very anal! I just like things to 'look' original I guess 🙂


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MarkTulip
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11/03/2008 7:30 pm  

lol I've just re-read what I...
lol I've just re-read what I wrote Nick - sorry if it sounded off hand - it wasn't intended, i've a habit of doing that!
;O)


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RetroSixty
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11/03/2008 8:03 pm  

No worries, when I started th...
No worries, when I started the thread I was thinking 'anorak'!


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mario
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11/03/2008 8:38 pm  

Anal?....because of your preference for a labled example?
.....critcal thinking anemia on designaddict!....thanks dude!
i get mine at the local used office furniture store.
knoll lables peel easily while the HM one must be peeled with patience.
just politely ask the sales person, they could care less.
and i promise you will not be incorrectly labled anal.....


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barrympls
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15/03/2008 2:42 am  

My my my
I'm not the only one who gets - let's just say, passionate.
Bottom line, if your original Knoll or Herman Miller or Fritz Hansen or Cassina or Kartel has the original label, swell.
If it doesn't, don't worry about it.
Pieces that ghet reupholstered or refinished are not likely to have the original lebsl anymore.
Also, as stated before, labels fall off over 50+ years of life.
As long as I know it's authentic, then a label is not necessary. Besides, let's say you have a Nelson bench from Herman Miller and the label is missing and you buy an original 1948 label to stick on it, and the bench is from the 1970's and is suppose to have the grey autograph label, then you're tampering with it.
As I'm not particularly picky about the year of production of a piece - so long as it wasn't misrepresented and it was a good deal, no big deal.
When I got my original Saarinen Grasshopper chair and ottoman, there was no label because it has been reupholstered. I got it upholstered for (probably) the second time and it never occured to be to0 paste a vintage label on it.


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LRF
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15/03/2008 5:56 am  

people are very serious ...
people are very serious about labels
Barry is right
about if you acquire the piece and you know it is original, then you should be happy even thoe it is missing a label ,
Putting a 70s Herman Miller label on a 50s piece just does not cut it,
Knoll changed their labels every 5 to 9 years from Knoll Associates to Knoll Internationale and so forth,
Herman miller used all kinds of series of labels from designed by George Nelson for Herman Miller and Charles Eames designed and the original foil label on all the Nelson furniture, to the circle white of the late 50s on the lounge chairs, to the black circles, and the last series of grey labels, so if you are gonna stick a label on piece of furniture at least try to get it on the correct piece of furniture, cause nothing worse.
like putting a lacoste alligator on a shirt from K-mart
hoping that we wont know. when we really could have cared less about the K mart shirt, but you ruined it with the fake alligator,
Think about it.


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mario
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15/03/2008 10:34 pm  

the man only wants a lable..........
so let him have a lable......
your point of view is lovely, but it yours....
i bet you can't change his mind on this lable issue.....huh?
i know you'll think me a town fool, but i dig lables.
i may be the town fool, but even i know mccain doesn't stand a modern
chance.....


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barrympls
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15/03/2008 11:29 pm  

It's great if you dig lables, Mario
but...do you also dig labels?


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LRF
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16/03/2008 4:09 am  

what ever floats your boat...
what ever floats your boat Mario,


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glassartist
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16/03/2008 7:41 am  

i dont think it is any
more or less anal or problematic than finding "correct" screws for a chair or valuing one piece more for having original upholstery. or for any other variation on the obsession that many of us share. let the ones among us that do not own more than we can fit in our houses or need to tell the time (i include myself) have a defendable position on what is reasonable. and for myself i wouldnt immeadiatly suggest it is for deceptive purposes unless i had some evidence first.


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