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FurnDesignStudent
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22/05/2009 8:04 pm  

Does anyone know when and for how long Herman Miller used the black silver foil label to mark their furniture? I have an Eames Table I just purchased off of craigslist.com (which is a great site to find amazing deals) and I'm trying to find out how old it it so I can put a value on it for insurance purposes. The only other identifying mark is the product number which is handwritten right below the label stating the piece as "ET 111". I'm assuming that because this is handwritten it could be an earlier piece, I haven't seen many tables that are labeled this way. Thanks.


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FurnDesignStudent
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22/05/2009 9:24 pm  

here's a picture
here's a picture
http://s571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/jcourt730/?action=view&current=...


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LuciferSum
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22/05/2009 9:45 pm  

Do you have a picture of the base?
that could help at least narrow down the decade. And for insurance its kind of negligible. These are wonderful tables, but not especially valuable. Depending on size, quality, and veneer you're looking anywhere from $10 - $600ish.


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FurnDesignStudent
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22/05/2009 11:21 pm  

Base...
Here's a picture of the base. The top is walnut with black vinyl edging. I've checked Herman Miller's product list for ordering tables and it seems as though they don't make this model anymore. It is a 54" top, the biggest you can get in a round these days without a special order is 48".


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barrympls
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22/05/2009 11:28 pm  

There's lots of Eames table options
You can get Eames tables in all sorts of sizes. Some are only available through Herman Miller's contract/office division, but here's what's available:
options
Base styles-Segmented, contract, and universal; all have
adjustable glides.
Top shapes-Round, square, oval, or rectangular in 36 sizes.
finishes
7 column finishes
8 base finishes
22 laminate tops with 10 vinyl edge finishes
17 veneer tops with 10 vinyl and 16 veneer edge finishes
sizes
Round: 30" to 96" diameter; 16" or 28 1/2"h
Square: 30" to 42"; 28 1/2"h
Oval: 36"d x 60"w to 54"d x 264"w; 28 1/2"h
Rectangular: 30"d x 60"w to 48"d x 96"w; 28 1/2"h
(Patrick & Alix; why does a dash (-) become a question mark(?) when one copies in data?)


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22/05/2009 11:36 pm  

Dash
Is not a standard ASCII character on the keyboard.


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FurnDesignStudent
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22/05/2009 11:46 pm  

Yes...
I know you can get multiple styles of table. However, this particular style, A round 54" with contract base (ET 111) is no longer offered. I have the table descriptions PDF from the HM site that lists all the options. There is a gap for the ET 111. The largest you can get in a round top with Contract base is 48" (the 110). The next number that is listed is the ET 112 which is a Square top with Contract base. This one no longer exists in the catalog.


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NULL NULL
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22/05/2009 11:55 pm  

ET 111 makes sense
If you look at HM's pricing info ET110 is the contract base table with a 48" top. There is a hole in the numbering system where ET 111 would occur, but logically it would be a 54" top with a contract base. I dont really think there is a difference between your 54" top, and the one in my dining room (which is an ET 124, 54" top/ segmented base). You can order these things in pieces, so any mixture of bases and tops is not in any way suprising. It is a rather ubiquitous product. They are used with great frequency in offices and homes. In terms of dating all I can tell you is that mine is from 1979 has a different sticker style, and has the production day stamped on the bottom as well as "ET 124". So there...now you know its probably not from the late 1970's.


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FurnDesignStudent
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23/05/2009 12:04 am  

How rare is it...
I guess I'm also wondering how rare this combination is. It just seems odd that they offer so many different combinations and chose to eliminate just one. Also, if anyone knew when they stopped offering this combination (if someone had older catalogs) it might help put a more accurate date range. I'm pretty sure it is from 50's or 60's because of the sticker and handwritten model number.


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NULL NULL
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23/05/2009 12:37 am  

probabaly not rare
I dont think I would call it rare. I would call it a great table! You can buy these things either from HM or "aftermarket" in pieces. It is hard to tell if it is the original base that came with the table or what. As a general rule venner top vinyl edged aluminum group tables are not rare. I think there are really old aluminum grp. tables from the 1950's with graniite tops....those are rare. There are a ton of table tops and bases like yours out there, that doesn't mean its not a great table. I think they are lovely. A 54" top is more valuable based on its size, but your not holding holding a piece that collectors lust after if that is your question. Its not like a Womb Settee or a fiberglass swag leg chair. I would still try to date it, I like knowing how old my furniture is.


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FurnDesignStudent
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23/05/2009 12:47 am  

Thanks All,
I knew it wasn't going to be worth multiple thousands of dollars. And I'm sure it's an original top, there is quite a lot of oxidation from where the base meets connects to the bottom of the top. And I'm with you SF, I like knowing how old my furniture is just for the sake of knowing. There has to be something more definitive in the label for dating. If I find anything valuable in my research I'll update.
Does anyone know if there are any good collector's reference books that might help (specifically with HM)?


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barrympls
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23/05/2009 2:52 am  

I like all 3 base styles...
can't decide which one I like best.
My 48" round grey on grey dining room table has the contract base too.


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chewbacca rug (USA)
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23/05/2009 3:06 am  

Help! date my Eames Table
i'm sorry but after i went out with that george nelson table, i swore to myself i would never date another herman miller table.... even it was eames.


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FurnDesignStudent
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23/05/2009 7:42 am  

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barry, I personally prefer the Universal base (even though it is the same leg and foot style as the Segmented). It just has a more fluid line. But the Contract base does provide a nice contrast in conjunction with a round top.


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barrympls
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23/05/2009 10:03 am  

I got my dining room
from a friend at only $75.00 (and it's in perfect condition). I was not concerned that it had the contract base. I was just thrilled that it matches my 4 EC127 chairs.
The square table I bought from Hive Modern two years ago has the segmented base and I actually prefer it.


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