Good price & ID: eames ea 117  

Hands off, it's a knockoff.
Hands off, it's a knockoff.

why
why

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Not a knockoff but an authorised European ICF chair. Such a public display of ignorance would be more forgivable if there wasn't a discussion of ICF Eames chairs currently in progress right here on DA.

Thanks Paulanna, if t's an...
Thanks Paulanna, if t's an authorised European ICF chair,
for you the price looks good??

Too high?
I think because ICF (like Hille) is less well known as a licensed Eames manufacturer there are unfortunately problems when it comes to selling them for market price and they are usually cheaper because of that. This seems to be the same price as a Vitra or HM chair. If you intend to keep it indefinitely no problem but bear in mind resale may be harder

Ok thanks, normaly to keep...
Ok thanks, normaly to keep it indefinitely.
But I'm surprised when you say that it seems to be the same price as Vitra or HM, because I looked everywhere and a vitra ea 117 cost at least 700 euros, if you know where I can do good deal , let me know 🙂

The ICF quality is similar...
The ICF quality is similar to a knockoff.
Example: if you punish the leather seat every day for several hours, then it's damaged after 2-3 months, the seams of the leather underneath the seat will get loose.
Typical for knockoffs, so hands off.

Desperate
pubpat - so first you say ICF is an knockoff and then to save face when its pointed out its legit you claim ICF similar quality to a knockoff. Sad and desperate.
Why do you now pretend to have knowledge when in fact if you knew anything at all about these chairs you wouldn't have made your first statement that they are knockoff?
In fact they last very well indeed but then again I have experience of them which you clearly do not.
Maybe less time in the pub is what you need

I just checked Ebay and a...
I just checked Ebay and a few Vitra EA 117 finished sub £400 over the last few weeks

you're in luck Paulanna...
you're in luck Paulanna because all the chair that I found are more expensive than that 🙂
I'll keep looking or I'll buy the icf I showed you...
difficult decision 🙁

thomatome, just be careful.
We had two ICF EA 219 in the late nineties, in our studio they have been punished 10-12 hours a day, after several months both had the damages as described.
Then we bought two Vitra ones and they are fine till today.
That's the difference between ICF and Vitra.

pathetic (and bullsh!t)
pathetic (and bullsh!t)

IMO and having had 100s of...
IMO and having had 100s of these chairs, the leather on ICF chairs is thick and of good quality. I believe they would probably wear better than a Vitra chair, but I use an F&K chair daily I haven't tried both long term. I believe the frames to be of better quality on Vitra chairs, so both are better at some things than the other. Maybe you were unlucky, who knows but I'd be very surprised if an ICF chair doesn't give many years of good/hard use..

My Experience
of ICF chairs much more akin to that of Nick and Paulanna.. never had a problem with them