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straylight
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31/10/2011 1:14 pm  

Counting designs
I am counting the Arm Chair and the Sofa separately now even though they are instances of the same design made longer or shorter.
I did this so as not to confuse the layman who would not understand that the sofa and the armchair are actually the same design.
My research stands.
It is the 1958 Arbuck catalog that is in the Cooper-Hewitt museum which I have made a scan of.
Don't be upset with me for telling the truth be upset with the people who lied to you in the first place.


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straylight
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31/10/2011 1:21 pm  

Nelson Archives
...are the archives of George Nelsons papers held by his family.


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norm
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31/10/2011 2:47 pm  

Vitra
Vitra has held the Nelson archives for some time now. If memory serves they were split between Vitra and Syracuse University. I have a list somewhere of the Syracuse holdings but can't put my finger on them for a month or so. Contact Andreas Nutz at Vitra for assistance.


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straylight
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31/10/2011 3:09 pm  

Nelson Archives
Vitra has the clocks collection which they bought at auction some years ago and some associated ephemera the actual George Nelson archive is at Syracuse University.
http://library.syr.edu/digital/guides/g/geo_nelson.htm


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norm
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31/10/2011 3:28 pm  

Kirkpatrick house
Vitra had the complete set of drawings and period images of the Kirkpatrick house that I was able to use to fill in the gaps in the documentation that came with the house. I believe they have more than you think...


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straylight
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31/10/2011 4:37 pm  

Fair enough
I've always relied on Syracuse University for those brief moments when I exhibit any interest at all in Nelson's work.
I have not concentrated much on Nelson or Eames as so much research has already been done on these luminaries I felt it unlikely that I would have much to add.
It always amazes me when I catch little things like this Arbuck misattribution that have managed to escape all those who have gone before me.


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Honus_Wenger
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31/10/2011 10:46 pm  

tinyarmada...
the state of denial you seem to be in is epic. Straylight, the DAer most concerned with issues of proper attribution and research practices has provided you with very very strong evidence, for free. The thing that is most annoying, is your reaction to to his evidence...try saying thank you. He is a generous fellow who has answered many a question.


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Mark
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31/10/2011 11:00 pm  

Lunchbox
is priceless.


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Lunchbox
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31/10/2011 11:04 pm  

Oh Honus, silly you...
Product literature documentation?
Historical archives?
Ppphhhfffffbbbb....


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Riki
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31/10/2011 11:47 pm  

Has anyone else noticed
that tinyarmada started out this thread as Maria but has now morphed into someone named A.S.? Even though that irrefutable fact is plainly right in front of my eyes, I think it requires more definitive research.


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glassartist
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01/11/2011 12:05 am  

I only take exception
to the absolutism used to discredit little known pieces. Logically you could say that Straylight has produced the best evidence so far and it is highly unlikely that the table and chairs are Nelson. To say that this counts as incontrovertible evidence however, is just not logical. While archives are a great source, there is nothing implied in their exsistence to suggest that they have every shred of information. Hell, even Nelson could not attribute the ball clock to a specific designer, and that was the next day. Expand that slip to a large scale gathering of info years later and it only makes sense that there will be gaps in the record. The only way to say "incontrovertible" is to show concrete evidence of who did design these pieces. Best available evidence against is just reducing the odds.
And no, I am not defending the original poster's hopes with this.


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Spanky
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01/11/2011 12:36 am  

Riki
A.S. and Maria are two different people using the same tinyarmada ID here. They've both posted on other threads, sometimes in the same thread as in this one.
In other news, I need a popcorn refill.


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spacepirate1
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01/11/2011 12:37 am  

So, just to clear things...
So, just to clear things up... tinyarmada is likely a male furniture dealer who pretends to be a woman named "Maria," who's initials are actually "A.S." and overpaid for a wrought iron dining set that he had hoped to make a killing on by selling as a George Nelson design? Awesome!


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Spanky
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01/11/2011 1:04 am  

That's good.
Now if you could just work the word "overwrought" in there somewhere, it'd be perfect. Thanks.


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Mark
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01/11/2011 1:18 am  

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