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Masterc
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14/11/2010 9:46 pm  

Hello, i recently bought a nice Marcel Breuer Wassily Chair manufactured ca. in the 80s an used in a lounge area of a big german insurance company. I don´t doubt that it is a real one, I am just curious about the manufacturer. It has the Marcel Breuer Signature and a sticker, but I don´t know the logo of the sticker. There might have also been a gavina sticker, because there is some glue left on the underside.
Maybe you guys knwo a little more... Thanks in advance


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Masterc
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16/11/2010 7:18 pm  

Does anybody have an idea???
Does anybody have an idea???


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Masterc
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19/11/2010 9:42 am  

Does anyone know anything...
Does anyone know anything about the foil sticker? I´m really curious, what logo that is?


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19/11/2010 10:28 pm  

Can't help you with the chair...
Can't help you with the chair or signiture.
What's the name of the German insurance company? It might reveal the origins of the sticker. Many companies used stickers for inventory purposes with no relationship to the maker.


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19/11/2010 10:29 pm  

One more thing. Inventory wa...
One more thing. Inventory wasn't always done in-house. Sometimes outside firms managed this.


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20/11/2010 4:46 am  

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only black frame seen not legit but no impressed signa...
have not seen impressed signature b4. Reminds me of Canal street merch...


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Masterc
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20/11/2010 6:07 pm  

It´s no B4, it´s a B3 Wassily Chair
@ uasrem2: It is no B4, it´s the Wassily (B3). Why do you mention the tube is black? It´s chrome finished silver... don´t understand your last post.
Gavina printed the signature till the end of 1980s into the upper leather (the chair is from the mid 80s). The tube is seamless, the screws are hex in black with engravements and the leather is very thick and in fine used condition. As I said, there is definately no doubt, that the chair is a gavina wassily (the form of the glue that is left on the tube matches to the stickers used by gavina. I was just wondering what that sticker is about that is left on the chair. Possibly it´s from the store, where the insurance company (DEVK) bought them (they had 30 chairs in their chairman´s lobby).
But thanks anyway!


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20/11/2010 6:18 pm  

The logo on the sticker sure...
The logo on the sticker sure looks like a D with a K.


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Masterc
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20/11/2010 6:45 pm  

I have the solution!!!
Thanks woofwoof for your inspiration...
Very simple and some of you were right - it´s indeed the (old 1980s) logo of the insurance company, so yes, it´s an inventory number. I really like the idea of my chair, once standing in the fancy 80s lobby of this insurance firm. I lived 7 years in cologne (where the company´s central office is) not far away from the buidling. Have a look at the images...


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20/11/2010 6:53 pm  

they have an interestingly designed...
they have an interestingly designed globe on top of their roof. (I don´t mean do advertise 🙂
http://www.devk.de/media/content/mediathek/bilder/kugel/DEVK-Koelner-Kug...


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20/11/2010 6:59 pm  

interesting documentary...
interesting documentary about the wassily chair...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLjKFgij4sQ&feature=related


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28/11/2010 3:22 am  

I'm wondering if anyone can...
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me about these chairs. I don't think it's Knoll because there's no marking, but it could be older knoll (70's or 80's) and I'm not sure what types of production changes have occurred since then. The leather is high-quality and heavy duty, but the chrome endcaps aren't brazed on. The measurements are spot on for Knoll. Thoughts?


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Masterc
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28/11/2010 4:41 pm  

As far as I know the endcaps...
As far as I know the endcaps of the orginal Version (made by Gavina / Knoll) should be seamless and not be put on as in your case.
Have a look at these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpxscfYHUzs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHr3m2bk6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHr3m2bk6A


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29/11/2010 9:01 pm  

Thanks, I figured as much. I...
Thanks, I figured as much. I am curious if there are better known knock-off producers so I can narrow it down a bit. Thanks!


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Masterc
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03/12/2010 1:29 am  

For sure there are better an...
For sure there are better an worse knock-off manufacturers. In fact, knock-offs get better an better these days. I recently compared my old Gavina B3 to a new Knoll version and I had the impression, that it´s overall quality is not as good as in the old days...


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