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Mike Mozart
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02/12/2009 7:18 pm  

I have so much company literature and financial documents from Howard Miller from the 1960's to late 1980's. In spite of this floor clock having Nelson Hands, I have never seen it even claimed once as Nelsons in the few times it appeared in Print ads. It is a Very Short clock that is just over 4 feet tall.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170411187620&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_12580wt_948

I have the Digital Floor Clock based on the same exact Chrome Frame. The Howard Miller Ads that I have never mention George Nelson in connection with this Red Digital Readout Chrome Framed floor clock either. Since I had the Digital version, I looked up the clock on the financial statements and it did not appear as a royalty paying item number at all. HOWEVER George Nelson Did design at least Two Lucite Floor Clocks with those same hands as they appeared in a advertisement stating they we the "Clear Choice in Contemporary Clock Design by George Nelson". I Do have one of those two Floor Clocks.

I feel that the Chrome Digital Clock was made by an outside company and Branded Howard Miller to be sold through their sales force. It's offered in 1972-73 on the Price Lists. This Lucite one shows up in 73-74. Could they have retrofitted the inventory of 1,200 non selling Digital inventory with the Lucite clock mechanisms to make them saleable?

Please forgive any typos. I'm sending this from my iPhone.

Any opinions or insight. I have 6 definite Nelson Floor Clocks and I should probably get this one on Ebay if it can be proved to be by his firm. But in my unique and expansive archive, I am stumped!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170411187620&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


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03/12/2009 8:36 am  

I am going to say no, why...
I am going to say no, why wound such a great clock manufacturer design a clock that you would have to turn around to wind it? I have this same clock design but its a wall clock notorious or falling off the wall because of its weight. I think, some one broke their wall clock and used the mechanism to build a floor clock that wouldn't fall off the wall


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NULL NULL
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03/12/2009 8:23 pm  

I'm looking forward to the revelations from Mr. Mozart's stash
because the actual George Nelson Archive does not reference the clocks mentioned in the earlier post or this one; the recently released Nelson book does not list those clocks in the Nelson Associates' List of Works; and no Howard Miller Catalog I've seen attributes those clocks to him.
None of that is definitive, of course, so I look forward to seeing anything people have to support a Nelson attribution, including particularly the photograph of him with six grandfather clocks (presumably not the one regularly attributed to him, model no. 2256 from 1957).


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Mike Mozart
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04/12/2009 11:53 pm  

My archive begins in 1961 so it misses the 2256 Clock
I don't have anything that I have noticed yet the says if the metal 2256 floor clock is George Nelson Associates or not. I always did think the face reminded me of clocks positively attributed to Umanoff.
I have a supplemental price list showing a B&W line drawing of a key wind shelf clock of the indentical design as the top of that clock alone from around 1962 with the word "Kundo German Design" after the item number if that makes sense to anyone? The financials never showed the shelf version in inventory. It likely Never Sold. There were probably Prototypes in the showrooms. A Lot of Clocks that I have seen images ov Never seem to ever show up. There must be dozens of clocks shown that were never produced. Or made in Very small sample runs.
The Mystery clock on Ebay went unsold @305.00 after not reaching the undisclosed minimum reserve.


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Mike Mozart
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11/12/2009 1:49 am  

It was NOT George Nelson's Design
Look!
I was sent the Patent for the Digital Howard Miller Floor Clock, which is the Identical Frame and design, except with Lucite encasing the chain driven clock works!
http://www.google.com/patents?id=atknAAAAEBAJ&zoom=4&dq=237%2C783%20cloc...
http://www.google.com/patents?id=atknAAAAEBAJ&zoom=4&dq=237%2C783%20cloc...


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