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Riki
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20/06/2008 4:28 am  

I'm on it
Barry, with your permission, I will email my friend at Random House (they distribute for Rizzoli, among hundreds of other imprints) with your idea and reference this website. I'll see if she is interested. Yes, no?


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barrympls
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20/06/2008 5:53 am  

Great, Riki!
I have a bunch of decent copies of Howard Miller brochures, a spreadsheet including 300 or so clocks and color variants, as well as a huge collection of copy-ready photographs on my computer.


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20/06/2008 7:41 am  

riki
that sounds great to me also
I have been in and out of the country and town for the last month so i have not been on the forum much but any thing that could come of a great book about my Nelson clocks would be great.
my wife can not understand how come i have not bought a clock in two months, but with our real business the oil and gas business has kept me so dam busy, it has been so hectic and caused me to be traveling around on behalf of our company.
I am also redoing the exterior of the House and the full truckload of Tennessee crap orchard came in today and they are delivering it in the morning. i found the Cumberland quarry in Tennessee that produced it in the 50s and I got it so now i can finish the house the way it is suppose to look in 1964 . so in 3 months it will be ready for the National Trust for Historic Preservation: modern architectural tour the end of October.


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20/06/2008 10:00 am  

book
Great, Lloyd, let us know when the tour is and we will all come and raise a glass to your endeavors. I will email her tomorrow and let y'all know what she thinks.


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MKR72
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25/06/2008 1:04 am  

Whats this?
I found this on ebay. Has anyone seen this before? They say it's one of the original series but I cant find anything about it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/George-Nelson-Style-Ram-Zoo-Clock_W0QQitemZ280237907...


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barrympls
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25/06/2008 2:44 am  

There were two of the
Zoo-Timers clocks which were not reissued by Vitra
2321 - Rowena the Tam
2323 - Samantha the Swallow
The pix above is 2321


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25/06/2008 2:55 am  

thanks.
thanks for the info. Apparently this is a reproduction but not by Vitra. It looks just like the new ones. I think I'm going to bid on it. I cant believe its so cheap!


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25/06/2008 5:33 am  

For some reason
Vitra passed on those two. Heaven knows why!
Remember, these are cheap clocks and only sold for a mere $9.95 electric and $17.95 battery back then.
I saw an original of Fernando the Fish and it was paper printed and glued over a smooth particle board, similar to what they used to use on the Eames ESU sides.
Don't expect this repro to especially sturdy.


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25/06/2008 9:55 am  

I don't know much about clocks but since coming here
at least now I know some names - and today at a thrift store I saw a clock with the name Howard Miller so I just immediately picked it up due solely to you guys.
Course it's probably a crap one that nobody wants. It's like a pyramid shape, clear plastic case with clockworks inside - if you know what I'm talking about.


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25/06/2008 6:40 pm  

Dots....Howard Miller made
traditional clocks since 1926. I'm not sure if the Gilbert Rohde modern clocks of the 1930's were made by HERMAN Miller, or by HOWARD Miller, but I have seen HERMAN Miller clocks listed on eBay. always in the traditional style.
In 1948, when George Nelson/George Nelson Associates joined HERMAN Miller, his clock designs were produced by HOWARD Miller and continued this arrangement until the early 1970's. I'm not absolutely certain of the break-off date, but the later new clocks were designed by Arthur Umanoff, who was a George Nelson Associates employee. By the early 1970's most of the older Nelson clocks had been discontinued, but it's possible that a few were still in their catalog.
However, by the mid-1970's, all of the Nelson Associates clocks were discontinued and strangely, HOWARD Miller had basically disallowed themselves from mentioning this amazing arrangement in all of their subsequent advertisements, their website, etc. If you call them, they only say that they have nothing to do with the Nelson clocks anymore.
I'm quite certain that Howard Miller probably had rights of first refusal to put out the clocks that Jacquline Nelson later arranged for Vitra to produce. Or, possibily, because of some weird bad blood between Howard Miller and Nelson, they didn't even consider it. Who knows?...but it's darn weird that on their website, they spout about their cool history but completely omit the amazing arrangement between Nelson and Howard Miller.
During the Nelson years, of course, Howard Miller continued their own traditional clock business.
Your Pyramid clock probably had no connection with George Nelson Associates, but a snap of the clock would be helpful.


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26/06/2008 12:47 am  

barry
actually i had the seller send me high quality pics of the clock. they said it was made just like the vitra ones and was professionally produced as a small run. he said it was not paper, that it was actually silk screened like the real ones. the clock hands and movement are actually from vitra. he even sent a photo of the clock with a fernando the fish clock side by side. they look of the same quality.


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barrympls
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26/06/2008 5:26 am  

That's great
Hope you win it


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barrympls
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07/07/2008 6:03 am  

OK...time to get excited about clocks
all over again.
Got this crazy clock recently. #2258, which has marblized vinyl patals, white round indicators and a really cool set of hands.
My edition is key wound and is in slightly worse condition than the one shown below.


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07/07/2008 12:47 pm  

any thoughts ? genuine ?
any thoughts ? genuine ?


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barrympls
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07/07/2008 6:09 pm  

Those clocks marked "George Nelson"
are cheesy rip-off Chinese crap...most are similar but not at all real.
So, if it says "George Nelson" on the clock, stay away...unless you like it, of course.


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