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jdip
 jdip
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06/09/2011 10:45 pm  

Well
We are talking thousands here so don't think it's worth the gamble. I guess I really didn't think it through. I am so used to buying stuf and just immediately paying so I figured that's what all do.
Spanky et al.......appreciate your continued advice.


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NULL NULL
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06/09/2011 11:06 pm  

eBay
If you didn't state in your listing that payment upon pick-up is an option, then the buyer is required to pay for the item first per eBay guidelines. I see no good reason to waver from this position.


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waffle
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07/09/2011 12:36 am  

agreed
woody.


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Mark
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07/09/2011 1:13 am  

just a thought..
Could the buyer purchase a cashiers check from your bank, using his/her credit card? With you along, natch. This would enable the buyer to still receive their airline points.
Call me curious.


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fastfwd
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07/09/2011 2:10 am  

Dear Curious,
No. The buyer would have to get a cash advance on his credit card and then buy the cashier's check with that cash.
His credit card's cash-advance rate is probably very high (15-20% or more), PLUS he'd have to pay the bank their cashier's-check fee, PLUS credit cards don't generally give you airline points for cash advances.
P.S. Jdip, that dummy's airline points are worth around a penny apiece; you could give him a 1% discount for cash and he'd be ahead of the game.


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Grendel_The_Cat
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07/09/2011 2:13 am  

cash?
Is cash an option for the buyer? It would save you the paypal fee's...


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jdip
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07/09/2011 5:49 am  

the guy is
Being a real Pain if the A@#. I told him I would lower the price by close to $100 if he gives me cash. Now he says its not just the airline points, he wants some type of "protection" that he will get if he uses the credit card. So I said to him "protection from what", you will be the one with the upper hand as you will have the item and I will be left wondering what will happen with the payment".... tried to explain to him that I am the only one who can lose in this situation.
The fact that he is persistant leads me to believe that he is going to attempt to screw me so I am canceling the transcaction even if lose the $100 or so in ebay fees.
just cant figure out why he is refusing to pay....says he wants to come check the item out first..


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TinyArmada
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07/09/2011 6:10 am  

I smell a scam
I vote the guy is a scammer. The whole thing sounds shady, his reasons for doing it this strange way keep changing and the fact you says it's a purchase worth thousands - it's not worth the chance. It's the big items worth thousands that these types go through the trouble to work a con on.
If the item is worth thousands it obviously something of significant value and you will find another buyer whose behavior won't ring alarm bells. Wait to sell securely and safely.


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niceguy
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07/09/2011 6:17 am  

run don't walk
jdip,
You have the "upper hand" not him, you have the product he desires. No discounts, no cash only, just go away. Cancel the auction, block the buyer, and "read all the rules" before you enter into any contractual agreements in the future.
Now you problem is that I will lose the $100 or so in ebay fees as opposed to thousands. You are still not reading the "fine print". You will only lose your listing fees.


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NULL NULL
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07/09/2011 6:40 am  

If you cancel the transaction through eBay...
Or there is non-payment, you will get the fees credited back after the case is closed. Non-payment will result in closure.
Open the case now.


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Spanky
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07/09/2011 7:39 am  

jdip
Below is the link to the ebay page where you start the complaint process.
It says that the buyer has to agree to cancel the transaction in order for you to get your Final Value Fee credit (that's the ebay commission, not the listing fee). But I think there are exceptions to this. I believe there are payment terms in the auction that he has to abide by (even if you didn't write any) and if he is changing the terms after the auction ends then I think you are in the clear as far as getting your FVF back. But do check. I haven't had to do this in awhile and they don't spell it all out until you start a claim.
Good luck!
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/cancel-transaction-process.html


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NULL NULL
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07/09/2011 7:44 am  

No
If you open a non-payment case, and the buyer does not pay, you will receive a credit for the selling fees. It's that simple.


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Spanky
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07/09/2011 7:57 am  

That's true. I just was...
That's true. I just was wondering if Ebay will consider a plea from the buyer that he tried to pay but the seller refused his payment, because he sounds like a big enough jerk to try that.
Of course, he is not paying according to terms, which would be my angle on it as a seller. Which, I guess, is essentially not paying.


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jdip
 jdip
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07/09/2011 9:39 am  

so
I did start the process for cancelling the trasaction through the ebay resolution center. Hopefully it will go smoothly and the buyer will just agree to squash the sale. They have to agree in order for me to recoop the fees ebay collected for the sale.


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waffle
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07/09/2011 9:51 am  

ebay
is starting to focus more on the seller protection aspects as well. My guess is that you will be able to cancel this happily


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