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James Collins
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10/03/2007 4:42 am  

Eames La Chaise...
See link for list of ingredients
http://www.dwr.com/productdetail.cfm?id=0250


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azurechicken (USA)
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10/03/2007 8:08 am  

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The surface quality is special...


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NULL NULL
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10/03/2007 2:43 pm  

technology evolves
the lachaises found in musea have feelable and visable fibers. Since a few years vitra re-edited this product (like the pantonchair) in order to make it more profitable, easier to produce, etc they use another kind of plastic-fibermixture the 'new' ones have a smooth soft surface and are not really glossy (same for the panton; they used to be glossy now not at all). I can imagine that there will be a difference in weight; has othing to do with 'fake' or 'real'. But all of this has already been said in previous threads on this forum. more important for me is its overall visual effect (the new ones are nicer to touch andlook at); the form based on a sitting womenstatue made by gaston lachaise (but some already told me that this is a urban myth created by some geniusmarketeers). some say they are not comfortable, i find them comfortable. just the price is not realistic.


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vivienne
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10/03/2007 3:02 pm  

Well Gerrit...
The lady at the bottom of this page (link) would fit it quite nicely i think.
http://www.askart.com/AskART/artists/search/Search_Repeat.aspx?searchtyp...


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Antonella
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10/03/2007 4:46 pm  

... and the gentlemen on the...
... and the gentlemen on the left (see the link to Digital Take) would stand there nicely too... ... about the "ingredients" in the site Design Within Reach:
the material of La Chaise is not mentioned. My teacher of applied tech always says that fibreglass is a harmful material and the use of it should be avoided, so I advise everyone who wants to buy La Chaise to check well and make sure it is made of alternative materials.
http://www.digitaltake.netfirms.com/whatwedo.html


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NULL NULL
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10/03/2007 6:32 pm  

Indeed, I agree with Gerrit,...
Indeed, I agree with Gerrit, the one I found is much more "finished" and beautifull than the original one from Herman Miller.
Finally to keep you guys posted I bought the chair after confirmation from Vitra being a real one: they confirmed that the white sticker with date and number always fall off, and has been glued to some chairs but not all of them.
As for the price, with muy architect's reduction I bought it at 2080 EUR which is to me quite exceptionnal seen the quality and mint status of the chair..
Thanks all for yout replies!


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James Collins
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10/03/2007 8:57 pm  

DWR
The DWR link lists materials as, quote:
Material
Chromed steel legs; fiberglass shell; solid oak base


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Antonella
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11/03/2007 5:19 pm  

Thanks. I didn't give the inf...
Thanks. I didn't give the info a proper look. So, if it is made of fibreglass what's the point in buying it? I suggest everyone who wants to buy a real classic to buy a rattan armchair from Franco Albini.


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vivienne
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11/03/2007 9:10 pm  

Hello Antonella..
I suggest that you read up on just exactly which circumstances fibreglass is hazardous in. You will find that these or any other chairs are perfectly safe unless of course you were to rip it apart and inhale the airbourne fibres.


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Antonella
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12/03/2007 1:48 am  

Yes, I read a lot about that ...
Yes, I read a lot about that issue. Also at college it is one of the most important themes of applied technology. We are taught to evaluate an industrial design object taking into high consideration the material of which it is made of. Not only its shape, functionality, feel, production costs, and so on. Fibreglass is dangerous even if a hard object like a bunch of keys is dropped on it. You also have to take into consideration the labour of the people who are involved in the fabrication of the objects. It is bad for them to deal with dangerous material like fibreglass, while it is safer to deal with natural materials like wood, wicker, cane, plywood, and so on.


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vivienne
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12/03/2007 2:03 am  

Maybe so
in an ideal world but there are a lot of things which are dangerous and quite a few more so than fibreglass. I like the look of Carbon Fibre, Nomex, Superplastic etc.and fibreglass so im willing to put my life in danger to sit on a chair which is made from it. As far as the workers conditions goes, as long as they are willing to work there thats their choice.Theres more to marketing and design than textbooks Antonella.


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Antonella
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12/03/2007 2:45 am  

I am talking about the real...
I am talking about the real world, not only text books. In the real world dangerous materials are being abolished. People who work in factories very often have no other choice and they have the right to work in a safe environment. That is what more and more factories every year are giving to their workers. An environment free from dangerous materials. In fact, if a design is nice, it can be produced with many types of materials. With today technology there is no need to use dangerous materials.


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James-2
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12/03/2007 10:58 am  

Speaking of materials....
My Kestrel bicycle is made of Carbon Fiber, very light and strong. Does anyone make carbon fiber furniture?


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vivienne
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12/03/2007 12:24 pm  

Hello James.
Off the top of my spinning head..Ron Arad with the loungers Oh Voids in 2000 or 2002 and also Marc Newson did some pieces i thnk.So rush out and buy one! ha ha.


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vivienne
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12/03/2007 12:31 pm  

Also James...
Yamagata V23 chair and Bertjan Pot Carbon Copy chair. Thank you Mr. Google.


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