my add on CL
well i sent all the pics to the lady at HM and she said it was real, and that i was done at home like you said, and that they had gold clips in the early ninties on only a few hundred chair before they switched back to black
i guess that makes the chair sort of rare, haha anyway
its up for grabs now, id rather not let my compulsions grab me, besides i want a new one in white.
reply to LuciferSum
some people,not like me, love the chair no matter what, some will even buy a reproduction, i know that this chair is real, but i have an issue with not having the paperwork for it, or at least the HM logo on it, many true Eames collectors or even just collectors in general might have the same problem as i do, i think about how many authentic items i have obtained over time and then FINALLY the King of all EAMES chairs comes along, and its a Frankinstien of the Eames chairs. It will drive me up a wall, but luckily theres a woman that wants it and is willing to pay 27 for it, so ill let it go and save up and this time make sure i am 100 percent on the purchase of my next one.
I dont know, maybe some of you are the same way on here, but im crazy about labels and making sure every danish mod/ eames/ mid century item i have was some part in history and not just a crappy replica.
thank you everyone for the Help, i know its a real chair, just want to find a newer more fitting version is all.
Schef
I wasn't meaning to be tiffy, if just seems as though the dead horse had already been beaten. As anyone will tell you I'm a stickler for real things. I'd rather forgo a particular chair than have a copy.
However, I'm also a fan of loving things as they are. Many of my own pieces have been brought back to life from near ruin - some without papers - and I love them no less.
well thankyou
the chair was sold to an individual who didn't care that it was a frankinstien, i was completely honest with her why i couldn't keep and she said she had no concern that there wasn't a label and knew it was real, besides ive saved up and and now have enough to buy a brand new one, i really like that Alaska leather they offer, little pricey though, but it will retain its value well.
"I know it will retain its value well"
Misnomer there actually. You see, you can only expect somewheres around 60-70% return on original purchase price when selling a newer production piece on the open market or at auction even. It's simply used until it's old enough to be vintage. It's really nothing special. And if you go spending an extra wad on premium leather, you can expect about 0% of that money upon resale. This is what I don't understand about "collectors" who buy new productions. 99.9% of the stuff produced today pales in comparison to its vintage counterparts.
re Lucifersum
re the forest for the trees quote....again I agree with this post. If you are looking at something and your gut instinct is that it is wrong then walk away, don't try to convince yourself and if you feel its right then its probably right. In this case it seems that the OP has always felt it was right but certain things made him doubt that....go with your gut instinct it will always serve you better in the long run.
thanks everyone for the help
thanks a ton guys, i know going with the gut is a good thing, i didnt want that last chair simply cause it felt wrong even though it was right, call me a weirdo, it was a real Eames by HM no doubt but I needed something better and i am a sucker for that new leather smell, i will say i didnt expect the special leather to be so much, so i wont be getting that, i found a company selling new ones with the discontinued leather (8) for 3299 which isnt bad at all.
ill be picking one up soon.
Lunchox makes a good point
Often, the price of a new Eames lounge is more than that of a vintage rosewood model. And once it's in your house, the new lounge will drop value about as quickly as it loses that new leather smell.
Vitra's Nelson clock reproductions present an even worse case. Many of them are priced near the market value of an original, but are almost worthless in the used market.
One more thingggggg.....
so lastly
the whole chair is true to be herman miller
except one thing, whats with that spider base, anyone have any idea how that happened?
the spider base has raised edges to fit to the chair better, but the lady at HM said she had never seen this before...
if the whole chair is legit, why would it have some odd makeshift base on it versus the real one
...look at some of the pics
The lady at HM never seeing...
The lady at HM never seeing a base like this doesn't say much. HM has had so many different iterations of products it's not even funny.
For example, when I had an Eames 3473 sofa I read about it's construction in the Eames Design book. According tot he book, the seat was made of ply covered with foam and dacron, AND had a spring system like the compact (why would it have spring system and ply I dunno?). But mine simple had canvas straps on the bottom, and so did the one other I've seen. Go figure. The person I spoke with at HM didn't even know what my 3473 sofa was!!
Likely they aren't nearly as hot and heavy on this stuff as we. To them, it's just a job perhaps?
specialist
well this woman was the classic specialist and has been for 45 years she said, she was well in her 70's and new everything about the eames. maybe she knew them... who knows, she says she has overlooked thousands of chairs over the years and Never" seen a base that had raised edges, many fakes or reproductions do that to stray away from getting sued for being too close to the original. She seemed to love her job, kinda makes me want to get a job at HM
they all seemed so great.
i feel like they probably all live down the street from Herman miller, drive the same car in different colors and live in a small neighborhood that looks like the one from Edward scissor hands
i know
im ridiculous
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