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evilchevy
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12/08/2010 10:34 pm  

Hi,

I have the opportunity to get a Disney Cappellini Y?S MICKEY chair limited to 33 worldwide.
I like the design but would see it more as an investment.
I have the chance to get it for at a fraction of the price in the shop, which will be around 6000£.

What do you think, is this gona become a collector?
IS it worth spending the money?


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Pegboard Modern
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12/08/2010 11:15 pm  

Why not get one of each?
But then maybe you'd have to also get the giant chair to go with them and that could prove difficult to get through your front door.


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Ark of Decorati...
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13/08/2010 1:32 am  

To buy or not to buy - that is the question
Evilchevy,
To buy or not to buy the Cappellini limited edition of 33 chair for Disney as an investment has an easy answer for me. I never buy any item that is made to be a collectors item (or any other item for that matter) as an investment. I buy everything because I enjoy the piece and intend to use it as it was designed. Money in my pocket (disposable income) is better than a supposed collectors item for sale at a later date. Ultimately you will do as you please and the best of luck to you regardless of your decision.


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Ark of Decorati...
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13/08/2010 4:22 am  

further review
Evilchevy,
I have further reviewed these Cappellini products and if I had the opportunity to purchase the Nendo, Mickeys Ribbon stool limited edition of 299 (small) for Disney by Cappellini or the Satyendra Pakhalè, limited edition of 88 chair for Disney by Cappellini I would do so at your "greatly reduced" pricing becouse I like the design. I would still never acquire this as an investment.


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fastfwd
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13/08/2010 4:28 am  

The Y's chair
that evilchevy is considering is the chair in the center of Pegboard's photo, directly beneath the word "Disney"-- the white foam one with the X base.
When it was originally designed in 1997, it had nothing to do with Disney; its only "limited" aspect is the Mickey that was embroidered on 33 units in 2010. I'd pass.


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Pegboard Modern
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13/08/2010 4:44 am  

Ark
You like Mickeys Ribbon stool?
Seriously?


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Ark of Decorati...
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13/08/2010 5:47 am  

Mickey's Ribbon stool (short)
Pegboard Modern,
At times a family will visit with a small child and this would be a nice piece for their seating and my pleasure. That is the same reason that I purchased the Gaetano Pesce, Nobody's Perfect Low Chair signed edition for Zerodisegno years ago. It is perfect for childen and is an acceptable design in my home (when in use). I did say that I would make this acquisition if I was able to get it at Evilchevy's "greatly reduced" pricing. There is nothing wonderful about this Cappellini design. Kids seem to enjoy Mickey Mouse and all the other associated products. Nothing more and nothing less.


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Pegboard Modern
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13/08/2010 7:49 am  

Uh, OK
If you say so. It's nice to consider what your young guests might enjoy, but you'd still have to find someplace for it in your home and that may require looking at it as well.
I have a small child (though he's not that small anymore, and getting bigger everyday) and I've enjoyed finding furniture that is scaled for a very young person but still compelling design and works well with the other pieces in our home. I remember a couple years back we hosted his birthday party and we used a low Herman Miller library table for the kids to eat at. There were a half dozen different vintage modern kid's chairs around it and as many kids devouring cake.
I am usually able to separate out my subjective feelings about aesthetics during a critique of art or design, but I can't get beyond the Mickey ears on the back of the stool. Perhaps it's those regretful years I spent living in central Florida or the fact that Mickey now seems like a huge corporate shill (I don't have any inherent bias against other cartoon characters and typically like a playful, whimsical quality in art) but I can't help but feel like someone took a dump on an otherwise nice looking stool.
I know there are legions of die-hard Disney fans who would would totally disagree with me, and I can see why Cappellini might want to do a tie-in with Disney and their giant marketing machine. But I don't know how many Disney fanatics are also into high design.
Personally, I don't care how limited the edition is or how low the price. You could give me one of those stools for free and I'd immediately start thinking of ways to get rid of it ASAP.
But to each his own I guess.


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Ark of Decorati...
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13/08/2010 10:10 am  

Feelings
Pegboard Modern,
Feelings are not facts, but they do exist and I appreciate yours. I do not think that the plain Ribbon stool is anything to "write home about" and the addition of ears is neither here nor there to an already pedestrian design (none of the pieces truly send me over the top). And yes, it is always about making money in business and Disney is fairly good in that area so I understnd Cappellini's desire to get on the band wagon. I would not be surprised if many of these items went at "greatly reduced" pricing (Evilchevy's words) when the dust clears. Again I was stressing to Evilchevy that "I" do not think it a wise idea to buy any object as an investment and that the only reason to buy a piece should be desire regardless of the cost.


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Lunchbox
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13/08/2010 1:27 pm  

Ark...
That Pesce chair would've scared me titless as a young lad.


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Lunchbox
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13/08/2010 1:42 pm  

Pegs...
Nice to see you on the forums a bit more of late.
I am in the process of doing just as you said in scouting out as many small scale MCM pieces as possible. I've got a lion's share of little people running around the house at the moment so I'm aiming to put together a functional home which doesn't skimp on form. It's rather enjoyable really. Seeking out design to fill a specific need always is. And the more specific the more enjoyable I think.
To sum it up...
What's with folks who over think the kids' stuff?
All they ever really want is to have something like or be like mommy and/or daddy. So just scale it down. Simple as.


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Ark of Decorati...
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13/08/2010 6:14 pm  

Childrens furniture
Lunchbox,
I seem to remember Neiman Marcus selling scaled down Knoll Barcelona and Womb chairs a few years ago. I am sure that they were in on the introduction (buy it here first) and now these same pieces are available at many other retail locations. Kids could probably care less, but I believe these would appeal to style conscience parents.
Todays kids see so many frightening things on television and video games that the Pesce chair is probably tame in comparison. I sat in any chair I could/or was told to by my parents and never gave anything a second thought. That was the beauty of being a child.
Lunchbox, I wanted to reply to your well thought out reply, but I have digressed as this posting was supposed to be about Evilchevy's desire to "invest" in furniture at "greatly reduced" retail pricing.
My outlook on buying as always been and will remain that if at the end of a products use to me should I sell the item and get my money back I feel fortunate and if I make a profit I feel blessed.


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Lunchbox
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14/08/2010 11:40 am  

Well honestly, Ark...
I think you summed it up pretty well in advising against purchases motivated by investment.
It's a good policy.
The conversation evolved(not surprisingly, mind) into discussion over kid's furniture which is a rather interesting topic. So there's nothing wrong with continuing the natural discussion regardless of how it was started. Bizarre thread topics sometime spark good discussion.
Quite simply, I couldn't care less about designer kid's furniture. I buy vintage at all costs for the most part. Same with children's furniture, although I do own a few Ikea pieces. But I tend to find sparse vintage plywood and plastic designs very pleasing and much more friendly than any designer pieces offered for kids. And I might also add that these "kid's" lines aren't really for kids if we're being honest. Anyone willing to drop the change for a kiddy Womb isn't buying the chair for their beloved but moreso for their own narcissistic reasons. A piece of children's furniture should not only be pleasing to the eye but function just like anything else. And if you're telling me I'm to pay a king's ransom for A Knoll kiddy Womb only have it drop 80% in value by the time they're too big for it and have nearly destroyed it, no matter how much they enjoy it you can't rationalize that purchase to me.


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Ark of Decorati...
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14/08/2010 6:36 pm  

narcissistic reasons
Lunchbox,
How rare it is that you and I are in agreement. Once my sister purchased a RL pink cashmere sweater for my Scottie and my father asked if it worked for the dog. I replied that "Caper" could care less, but I was sure that it worked for my sister. This I believe is the very same reasoning behind the Knoll for Kids furniture. And while I do not have a problem with Neiman Marcus (they sold the initial offering of Knoll for Kids prior to it's release to other retailers) that in it self should be evidence that this is definately made for adults. I see very few children spending their allowance at this store. Small children still seem to be happy making houses from cardboard cartons. Imagination is the key!
But Lunchbox, you know me, I would purchase a Knoll Barcelona chair and ottoman at $0.15 cents on the retail dollar for childrens use and admit that I enjoyed the piece and I hoped the kids did as well. To thy own self be true.
For once we agree on basic ideas and there are no hard feelings. This is a good way to start my day!
While it seems odd to me that Evilchevy has not responded it may be that the answer given was not the answer desired.


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HPau
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14/08/2010 6:47 pm  

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Several years ago on here I joked that eventually a child sized barcelona chair would be produced, looks like all the little emperors are having their day, I'm pleased to say I can't remember having my own chair as a child, I sat on my fathers or mother lap or at the dining table on a cushion.
That was real priveledge, those chairs are just absurd.


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