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koen
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10/05/2007 7:01 pm  

Beyond this spontanious reaction....
Yes, I think that a little bit more depth in our considerations is needed.
The "DA Vase" as it stands now is not the vase you pull out in front of your newly arrived visitors in order to give the flowers they brought, their much needed fresh water. This is a vase for someone that likes to arrange flowers, and will take some time to do that. Maybe we should look into that "ritual" a little bit more...


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10/05/2007 7:20 pm  

Now that I can comment on
I certainly do take time to arrange flowers when I buy them. I end up covering the kitchen counter with leaves, stem bits, rocks, frogs, vases, etc. until I am happy with my result. It usualy takes me 20-30 mins to prepare an arrangement, and I usually fiddle with it more after I am supposedly 'done'. What I like aboutthe design concepts you all hacve been coming up with is that the stems will settle into a full shape and allow me to see what they are doing in relationship to each other. I like that you all have moved toward a more natural fall of the stems. I tend to go very structured with and ikebana-ish. This vase pushes me in a more natural direction while still giving me a vessel that suits my tastes. I like this object, and I like its functionality. That's the point, right?


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11/05/2007 2:34 am  

Current design
This design will doubtless garner all sort of well-desrved "attaboys" but in keeping with the true spirit of this process let me say what I don't like about this one. It's SO cool looking it's going to be in that category of vases I use only rarely. These are the vases that say
"don't look at the flowers, look at me!"
Here's one of mine. Nice vase, nice flower arrangement (my take on kebana) but the vase form with it's intense geometry captures your focus almost immediately when you glance at the arrangment. I've had this vase a long time and the arrangements that work best in it are ones where the vase it'self first draws the eye. The rest of the arrangment is one that benefits from closer, slower perusal.

For this DA process I'd rather we made a vase that is the one that they go for when somebody arrives with surprise flowers. Maybe not.
Frankly I would buy this vase and then I would use it for an infrequent but spectacular arrangement of twisted willow branches and one raceme from a white wisteria floribunda.
Now I ask you ... could I BE any gayer?


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HP
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11/05/2007 4:14 am  

I think its looking better...
I think its looking better but I think tapering towards the top will improve its function and as an aside I don't think the branch trunk analogy is a good one, it would be as if you picked a daffodil and stuck it in the side of an oak tree.


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James Collins
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11/05/2007 4:43 am  

It's not quite a daffodil in an oak tree
but damn close I'd say. Now stop me before I get nerdy about flower arranging. Oh god the horror...


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James Collins
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11/05/2007 4:47 am  

I call that
last arrangement "startled flock of cranes". I'm having a real Zen moment, must've been that brownie I ate at lunch...


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Antonella
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11/05/2007 6:43 am  

Hi guys just a quick post as...
Hi guys just a quick post as im busy with assignments...
this project's discussions need a minute !


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11/05/2007 7:40 am  

I love the
word image, James -- and the visual one. Flame on !
Here's my little contribution -- a conical jar base with identical collars that nest and stack to provide various levels of openings. More or fewer "ruffles" could be used, depending on the size of the arrangement. Two different shapes are shown; three of one design (identical casting) would be provided with each vase.


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11/05/2007 8:29 am  

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I like the function of this vase, but the blistered/warty look is not appealing to me.


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11/05/2007 6:12 pm  

Nice to see that everyone is...
Nice to see that everyone is expressing themself freely!
SDR, i like your contribution, even if the shape is a little bit too classic for me.
Here below is a variation of my initial drawing, which integrates some of your comments.
A base like the one proposed by SDR and a lid with rods but hollow, broader, less higher and slightly directed towards the outside.


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koen
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11/05/2007 6:41 pm  

Dear SDR...
The minds of "makers" seem to think along the same lines. I hope to show a proposal build out of a number of castable rings that will close off the top with a pattern of hexagons (to please James) But I prefer to 3D model it because I think we are in that stage as far as sketching is concerned. This being said,I think that your proposal is viable and certainly feasable, although I have learned a lesson on products that come in parts (see mixing bowls) and in this case to I think the rings should be fixed together.


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HP
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12/05/2007 3:34 am  

I think it needs to be made...
I think it needs to be made a little more delicate now, perhaps the sides of the cap and the vase can be flush?, without the step?


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James Collins
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12/05/2007 7:12 am  

3D
Bear with me...take a Truncated icosahedron (see link) and extend the sides straight down to intersect and form a vase shape with a bulging top. Cut out all but the ribs across the top, a built-in flower frog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_icosahedron


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James Collins
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12/05/2007 8:08 am  

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koen
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12/05/2007 8:17 am  

To cut out...
is slightly too complicated James...unless you have a lot of underpaid chinese hands....but bear with me I will post an alternative tomorrow


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