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M_Dennis87
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23/09/2013 11:14 pm  

I'm hoping some of you might be able to educate me on a possible maker of this table. It has an oval "Made In Denmark" stamp but I have been unable to find a similar table but do see a resemblance to some Wegner pieces. Thanks.
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24/09/2013 7:22 pm  

table stamp
Attached is the faded stamp on the underside of the table. Any info on the piece would be greatly appreciated.


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26/09/2013 8:28 am  

I'm hoping to pick this...
I'm hoping to pick this table up this weakend. So, if anybody has any info regarding this piece it would be greatly appreciated. I have seen an identical table less the drop leaf that was advertised as Hans Wegner but would like to confirm that with an expert.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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26/09/2013 8:49 am  

If it were
a Wegner piece someone here would have mentioned it. Don't pay too much for it.


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26/09/2013 8:54 am  

well
an identical one is for sale on ebay...maybe they have better attribution? Or is THIS THAT table?


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26/09/2013 8:57 am  

and here is it's younger brother
potentially related
http://www.scandinavianmod.com/ct044.htm


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26/09/2013 9:02 am  

maybe
they saw this and drew conclusions?
I wouldn't bet the farm that it is HW
http://www.treadwaygallery.com/lotInfo.php?i=12729#.UkOjZFWzKpg


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M_Dennis87
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26/09/2013 5:09 pm  

@waffle the listing in eBay...
@waffle the listing in eBay is the not the table I'm looking to purchase and nowhere near the price I would be paying. However it's the only example I've seen that's similar. The brass stretcher and tapered legs are also leading me to draw the conclusion as well.
The younger brother table is similar but the metal caps on the legs are different. However this table is more similar and is attributed with Wegner.


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26/09/2013 5:36 pm  

More Similar
but WAY more beautiful- in my opinion


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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26/09/2013 7:06 pm  

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I don't see an identical table on ebay. ??
I do see a similar table without Dutch leaves that is claimed to be Wegner. But the claim is not substantiated in any meaningful way and all sales are final. Which is to say the attribution is worthless except as a suggestion that the piece looks Wegner-esque. Also the seller claimed it is teak veneer over solid wood (no particleboard) in an attempt to elevate the status of the table. If it were solid wood the incredibly thin modern veneer would have been ripped to pieces by wood movement. So that claim is false too. It might be a plywood substrate, but that isn't solid wood.
So, to the OP, this table might perhaps be a Hans Wegner. But it is extremely unlikely. Wegner is one of the premier designers; his work is well known and documented. To add a piece to his oeuvre would require a higher bar of documentation than most. There is however a high likelihood a very low status company manufactured a table to look like a Wegner.


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26/09/2013 7:54 pm  

@ericson yes the table...
@ericson yes the table listed on eBay isn't identical but it's the closest I have seen. I don't doubt that the seller's claim that it is an authentic HW piece is complete garbage either.
Even though it seems unlikely to be a Hans Wegner piece, it seems too obscure and well made to be categorized as manufactured by "a very low status company". But then again I really don't know and that is why I'm asking.
However I did find out some more info on where the table came from. The table was originally owned by an employee of Jens Risom and was purchased at the estate sale of his residence. I have seen the photos of the estate sale and the place was loaded with vintage Risom tables / chairs / cabinets / desks / headboards / swivel chair, Kofod-Larsen chairs, and more. This is another factor that makes me feel like maybe it's not just a no-name designer table but maybe I'm just trying to justify buying it.


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26/09/2013 7:55 pm  

Hi Leif
concerning veneers over solid wood: I've had several pieces wich were manufactured this way.
The use planks (squares) from pinewood to form blockboards (like ikea's countertops), this gets veneered.
I wouldn't say it's better quality, but it certainly give you a firmer more solid piece of furniture.


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26/09/2013 10:21 pm  

BJ: You are correct, at least...
BJ: You are correct, at least in some cases. "Lumber core" is the term I have heard for that technique as the Danes used it.
Based on wood movement there are exceptions to the variety of ways lumber core can be veneered. Thus, I have seen lumber core shelves without veneer on the end grain edges, but never a lumber core table.
Two reasons/exceptions:
1. across the wide surface of the table, the expansion/contraction of the lumber core would be too great to match the low expansion of the teak. Somewhere the veneer would have to crack to release the stress or the glue bond would fail delaminating the veneer. The same wouldn't be true across a 12 inch shelf.
2. The glue bond holding the edge banding on the end grain edges would fail and that edge banding would fall right off. This is why shelves done in lumber core don't have veneer on the end grain edge.


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26/09/2013 10:33 pm  

OP
The Danes were very good furniture makers, even when they weren't trying (especially compared to today's standards). I don't mean to denigrate the table or the manufacturer. So perhaps my word choice unnecessarily derogatory
It is a nice table. If you like it, buy it. But don't buy it because you think it is a Wegner, and don't pay Wegner prices for it. Unless you want to, in which case go for it.


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26/09/2013 11:29 pm  

@leif ericson thanks for the...
@leif ericson thanks for the responses. I'm not incredibly knowledgeable on Danish pieces so I appreciate your input. The price on the table is $800 which seems like a lot of table for the money, though anybody who thinks that's a high price, please chime in.


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