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Mark
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15/08/2010 1:17 am  

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RetroSixty
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15/08/2010 1:30 am  

I disagree Adam. I have...
I disagree Adam. I have actually learnt a lot about art from my Father, who himself is quite famous in the UK for his reference books on modern British art - I honestly wouldn't trust anyone's judgement over his gained in over 40 years of avid/maniac collecting. My collection has been well thought out, unfortunately at quite a cost as good quality modern British rarely slips through the net like furniture can.
I am as big a collector of art as I am furniture, and a number of my prints are part of major collections at the Tate etc so someone must rate them! The beauty of art, especially abstract, is it's ability to create such a broad opinion. Not one person will see the same picture, not everyone will like it, and not everyone will rate it. Lastly, while I have some nice pieces of furniture, in terms of importance my art collection is far greater.
p.s would be interested in seeing some of your work.


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adamfowler
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15/08/2010 2:01 am  

Nick, I'm not sure where...
Nick,
I'm not sure where we disagree? I certainly don?t think that it's across the board that collectors of design are not concerned with visual art, I only think that it more often the case then not.
I also want to say that I know that I am no authority on visual art and the work that I am drawn to may be different then what you are drawn to. When I say that I'm disappointed by people's choices in the work they put on their walls I don't mean that exactly, what I mean is that I'm disappointed in the lack of true consideration made. I know that most of us wouldn't put something in our homes that we don't like but I argue that the refinement in which we choose furniture is probably very sharp whereas I generally don't see that in artwork chosen.
I have posted two drawing a few post ago but if you would like to see more my website is adamfowler.com
Again, my work might not appeal to you; I'm not making an argument for the merits of my work rather artwork


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Robert Leach
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15/08/2010 2:06 am  

I have favourite artists
like I have favourite furniture designers, but the fact is furniture is mass produced, and therefore affordable, whereas for the most part, art isn't.
Are you suggesting a mass produced reproduction of the work of one of my favourite artists is better hanging on my wall than a piece by an anonymous artist chosen for its aesthetic/ decorative merits alone ?


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15/08/2010 2:30 am  

Mark
I like the last piece that you posted above.
adam- I like your drawings. How big are they?


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Benoit (CA)
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15/08/2010 2:33 am  

I am agree with D. Hopper. ...
I am agree with D. Hopper. Majority of us can't afford famous design furniture and famous artist art. I would love to have a Andy Warhol painting in my living room, but I just can't afford it. So, I try to encourage young artist... and even if they are not known around the world, some of their works are in museums (National Gallery of Canada, Musée des beaux-arts du Québec) or in famous collections (Cirque du Soleil, for example)...
But most important, I am happy with what I have!


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Mark
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15/08/2010 3:11 am  

NEXT??
Why thank you Woody. Here's a snap of my lovely grandmother, wearing my grandfathers mink stole and pearls whist sitting on an Eames??chair. Simply a wonderful couple.


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Mark
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15/08/2010 3:17 am  

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adamfowler
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15/08/2010 3:27 am  

the expense defense
I can certainly appreciate the expense defense for not buying serious art. But not all art is prohibitively expensive, in fact it can often times be quite affordable. I?m not arguing that everyone go out and buy a Picasso painting, I just was interested in your thoughts as to why there is such a disconnect between what I would consider two very similar interests. I was not trying to promote or congratulate myself or for that mater disparage anyone on here. This is a serious concern with me as am obsessed with modern furniture design and of course an artist. Come on Mark, why not have a serious debate? Is this forum solely to promote one school of thought?


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Robert Leach
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15/08/2010 3:44 am  

I
really don't understand your 'argument'
You say 'one school of thought' but people have posted a hugely wide diversity of stuff - Ethnographic, historic, naive, contemporary, classic and distinctly 'outsider' yet you dismiss it all as 'disappointing' and somehow wrong.
Are you saying that the only good art is art produced for commercial reasons?
Define 'serious art'


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adamfowler
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15/08/2010 3:46 am  

Really when I say one school...
Really when I say one school of thought, I mean that everyone is in agreement with disagreeing with me. That?s all


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15/08/2010 3:50 am  

Your argument....
Is essentially that everything posted in this thread is crap and without artistic merit.
Would you expect those whom you criticized to agree with you?


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Robert Leach
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15/08/2010 3:53 am  

I Might Agree
if I understood what you were saying...
is it because some of us buy our art second hand ?


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15/08/2010 4:02 am  

" I'm disappointed in the...
" I'm disappointed in the lack of true consideration made. I know that most of us wouldn't put something in our homes that we don't like but I argue that the refinement in which we choose furniture is probably very sharp whereas I generally don't see that in artwork chosen."
While there has been a variety of artwork shown by forum members, I still think that there has been a great deal of thought behind the choices.
I certainly don't think that people are going out and buying a painting just because it matches their sofa. If people were buying posters in bulk from any random shop and sticking them up on the walls with scotch tape I would understand your point.
Perhaps you are underestimating the amount of thought put into the choices?


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Robert Leach
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15/08/2010 4:05 am  

podboy
I totally agree, but would go one further and ask what's wrong with buying something that goes with one's sofa?
I ain't gonna hang something over my sofa that looks awful with it..


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