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Richard Tanimura
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29/10/2014 5:54 pm  

I have been away for a while. There were so many great comments here that I would like to follow up on. Maybe another way is to continue the thread in a different way - starting on the Raastad & Relling, Bambi dining chair.
I am starting to work on the new chairs. Looking at the frame, I believe the seat pattern is exactly the same as the Bambi arm chair so I am just continuing the same thread. I gather there is need for information here. I will try and document this job more thoroughly so that people who want the pattern can follow this.
First, I want to share this. There are real butchers out there. The kinds of horrors and hatchet jobs you see are amazing. See pic. 1
Second, since this was a hatchet job, I don't think this is the correct pattern. Take a look at pic 2. Could somebody who has an original Bambi dining chair please post the a similar shot of the original. That would help me a lot.



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31/10/2014 12:15 am  

Decided to photograph my Bambi today. As is often the case when I photograph pieces, I appreciate the design even more now after seeing the close-up views.




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31/10/2014 2:10 am  

Sweet.  A real nice alternative to Wegner's chair.  The side view is faultless . . .


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Richard Tanimura
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31/10/2014 5:15 am  

SDR asks about the dish shape. It is my opinion that for the arm chair, this was the original pattern. I base this on two examples I own which had completely original weaving. The pattern was one strand over the top and one from under. It places the plane of the seat at the mid-line of the stretchers. It gives a lightness and openness to the weave that suits the delicacy of the chair. The double strands over the top gives a denser weave in my opinion. But it is possible that just this weave was used on the dining chair. I am researching this now.
I don't find the comfort to be much different between the two weaves. I find both really comfortable.
cdsilva, you did a beautiful job on the caning. I see you use the double over the top pattern on the seat. Do you have any pictures of the underside of the seat? I am curious how it looks. I also see that the horizontal strands on the back don't seem to be continuous. You can do it with one strand you know? I will post a pic of what I mean.
Nice work though. Love these chairs.


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31/10/2014 5:48 am  

ScanDesign,
I believe that is still the old caning that was on cdsilva's chair when he acquired it.  He has not re-caned his chair as of yet.


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31/10/2014 6:06 am  

Thanks.  My only thought about the comfort of a dished seat would be that the front cross-bar might bother the back of the thigh . . .


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31/10/2014 4:18 pm  

Correct tchp, my caning work was limited to gluing a few loose strands back to the rails (primarily for photography purposes). I understand that after a little use, those "fixes" will undo themselves quickly.
 
ScanDesign, I will take some underside shots this weekend. I believe it is similar to yours, with a thin strip of wood used to wrap the cane around, so that it can reverse direction and always be wrapped around the top part of the rail. This is just a preliminary guess on my part, as I haven't examined it in detail, and certainly haven't woven one before. While the original plan was to re-weave it quickly, I think I might leave it as is for a while. 
 
SDR, my favorite view is the backrest closeup from the "armpit" perspective; so many different angles and curves working together.


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12/03/2015 4:11 pm  

Based on someone's else's comments concerning wood color of my chair, I took a closer look at it last night. I now think that the frame might be a combination of teak for the arm/back rests, and afromosia for the legs. I'm not sure why I didn't notice it before, but the wood color is slightly different between these components, and the grain looks like it might be different as well.
 
Do any of you other Bambi owner out there notice the same construction on your chairs? I had never even heard of afromosia until leif started mentioning it on DA.
 
Also, I realized I never posted a photo of the seat underside that shows the wood strip that the cane wraps around to always it to be wrapped over the top side of the rail.




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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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12/03/2015 5:26 pm  

Yes those legs are Afrormosia, and the top is teak. I believe they are all this way. 


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01/06/2015 2:40 am  

Some months ago I acquired a Bambi Chair, that I have sought for so long. However it was in leather and I really would like the cane version one day, since it doesn't seem like you can cane the leather version (different holes in the wood). I have however seen a cane version now, but want to ask you experts a question:
Are there two different caned models - one lounge version and a more upright one? And if so - how easy is it to determine the difference on a photo (which can be stretched in either direction?
PS. I've attached a picture of the leather version I bought.


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13/07/2016 11:24 pm  

Bambi Updates:
1) Vintage printed documentation (magazine listing?) that establishes that Adolf Relling as the designer of the Bambi series (Rastad and Relling employed multiple designers in their offices over the years, including Frederik Kayser, Arne Halvorsen, and Sigurd Resell).
2) The lounge chair is model 56/1, while the dining armchair is 55/4
3) Assuming this seat design is original, it appears there was a third seating option for padded upholstered (in addition to caned and stretched leather)
4) The previously theorized seat weave to create a lower support depth for the seat cushion can be seen in the listing photo, but the vintage documentation appears to have the cane wrapped around top only with the cushion support roughly at the top edge of rail.




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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/07/2016 2:11 am  

This is pretty obscure, but I would be curious to see the documentation on the dining armchair that shows it as model 55/4. In standard Scandinavian catalog language, insofar as that was a thing, that would translate loosely as model 55 option 4 or in context model 55 stretched to a 4 seat sofa.
I'd just be curious to see documentation showing that very specific coded language meaning something else. I am curious what it would mean, in context, as 55/1 or 55/2 or 55/3, etc.


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cdsilva
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14/07/2016 8:39 pm  

I'll go ahead and guess that the four options are:
- cane seat with cushion and cane back,
- cane seat no cushion and cane back,
- padded upholstered seat and cane back,
- stretched leather strap seat and back.
There are Bambi chairs with wood only backs, but that seems to be a big enough design change to warrant a different model number.
Certainly seeing a complete R&R catalog would be the most informative.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/07/2016 11:41 pm  

Actually I realized that I have access to a Gustav Bahus catalog (the maker of the Bambi chairs).
The secondary number that follows the slash is indeed used to indicate the kind of seat.



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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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14/07/2016 11:44 pm  

And the chair with the carved wood backrest is model 57. And there are likewise upholstery options for the seat indicated by the second number. Model 57/1 has a cane seat. Model 57/2 has a woven leather sling. And Model 57/3 has an upholstered seat, which appears to be leather in the catalog, but could probably be anything the customer wanted.


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