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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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08/09/2014 11:01 pm  

I do not think this is...
I do not think this is walnut either. I suspect it is something very unusual.


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08/09/2014 11:38 pm  

is there anything I can do...
is there anything I can do pic wise to help you woodies figure this out?


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09/09/2014 12:19 am  

below is a link to a
marked Yugoslavian Maria table...I must admit...hard to tell the difference and I can see the strong similarities in mine.
http://www.grestuff.com/danish-yugoslavian-gateleg-table/


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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09/09/2014 12:52 am  

More photos I suppose might...
More photos I suppose might help.
One thing that is throwing me about the grain is that it looks like the grain of solid wood. And it definitely isn't solid. I think that means it is flat cut veneer, which usually means each strip of veneer is narrower. Also, the veneer repeats a lot, which would accord with this.
Another thing that is throwing me is the coarseness of the grain. It doesn't look like any of the "usual suspects."
Finally, I think we can be quite certain the legs and inside edges of the table top are stained beech.


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09/09/2014 1:26 am  

The veneer is in verticle strips
about 3-4 inches wide so that would support your theory...I will try to get some better wood pics


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09/09/2014 3:51 am  

If you can photograph it without
any glare off the finish, that would help. (The finish looks like it's maybe lacquer that is wearing off...?? Or did you just oil it and it needs buffing? It looks unevenly glossy in some of the photos.)


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09/09/2014 6:09 am  

here are some better pics....
hopefully...didnt have the room to open it up all the way....


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09/09/2014 6:11 am  

more...
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09/09/2014 6:12 am  

the bottom side of the middle "stick"
in the pic is completely unfinished....


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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09/09/2014 6:51 am  

A Yugoslav knock-off version ...
A Yugoslav knock-off version would not use flatsawn curly veneer like this. Too expensive.
An authentic factory standard Maria would not use this veneer either.
So I don't know where that leaves you... Possibly this was a custom built "Maria" table.
As to the wood species: it might be curly teak. It might also be any number of tropicals: Khaya and Sapele (both mahogany substitutes) come to mind.


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09/09/2014 10:15 am  

Jerry, you could always poke around
on the wood ID site linked below. Tons and tons of great photos.
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/


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09/09/2014 9:22 pm  

here is a close up
of where the edging joints the main top....almost looks solid?


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10/09/2014 12:16 am  

you are going to flip this, correct?
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10/09/2014 12:18 am  

havnt decided yet....
I have a hard time letting some stuff go....and I like this one


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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10/09/2014 2:18 am  

That end grain on the edge...
That end grain on the edge banding is surprising.
A: there are very visible rays. Teak would not have that characteristic. I have no idea what would. Which sends me back to the idea that this is some very unusual wood.
B: I've never seen tongue and groove edge banding before. That is just odd.
C: The table top can't be solid and have edge banding. The edge banding would pop off the very first season with expansion and contraction of the wood. So the table top have to have a substrate (plywood or particle board) that doesn't expand and contract. Occasionally you will see a table, usually in the mission style, with a solid top and tongue and groove ledger boards at the end. However, in that case, the ledger board is not glued on; there will be a clever arrangement of hidden tenons to allow for expansion of the table top. And in certain times of the year, the ledger board will be shorter or longer than the width of the table.
The more I look at this table the more I think that it was a custom built period replica of a Maria table. Too many of the features don't fit with mass production furniture.


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