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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 12:11 am  

If you don't know who Zaha Hadid and Dillon Lin are.
And if you truly believe stereotypes are OK because:
"Just because something is a stereotype doesn't mean there isn't some truth to it".
Wow, you really ARE with it. Good luck.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 12:27 am  

I said I've never met them....
I said I've never met them. And you've never met Charles Eames I'll bet. Your point?
Many times stereotypes arise from truth. I used to have a skateboard myself in the late 70s, as did most 12-13 year old boys that I knew. By age 15 or 16 most of us would have been embarrassed to be seen arriving anywhere on a skateboard.
I certainly knew enough boneheaded skateboarders in my college years. Having worked with many college students in several university jobs over the past decades, and spending time with my young nephews at the skatepark, I have plenty of experience with skateboarders.
The only adults at the skatepark are "supervising", I can assure you that.
But you've convinced me. They're all Einsteins.


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azurechicken (USA)
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22/03/2009 12:29 am  

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some skater boys are rather attractive...to find a jazz lover among them pricless...


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 12:32 am  

This article is from All About Jazz . com
Click:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=26532


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 12:34 am  

that article isn't about...
that article isn't about "jazz-loving skateboarders". Sorry.
But nice google search. next time read the article first.
It's about a concert hall being used by skateboarders. They wouldn't care if it were a produce market instead.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 12:40 am  

a quick google search with...
a quick google search with "jazz skateboards" turned up this gem of a 28 year old jazz fan and skateboarder on myspace.
He sounds totally awesome!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendI...


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 12:44 am  

A clip from a 1994 skate video
"Stereo's first video, A Visual Sound, is one of the first introductions of experimental art, film, and music in skateboard videos. The video is written, produced and directed by Jason Lee and Chris Pastras. Throughout the video, abstract and eclectic still frames and photos are intermingled with color and black and white footage of skating.
The soundtrack is a PURE JAZZ LINEUP from Ululation and Tommy Guerrero. "
Jason Lee is rather famous now.
Click:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xik9C_RAsCA&feature=player_embedded


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 12:47 am  

Why are so you angry man?
Just turn up the volume of the video, and chilllllllll.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 12:53 am  

I'm at a loss to get your...
I'm at a loss to get your point. I never said that there were NO skateboarders who liked jazz.
My opinions are not based on ignorance, I assure you.
Next time a horde of teenage boys are annoying the sh*t out of everyone at the local park I'll go up and ask them what their favorite Miles Davis LP is...although I know that the answer will be a blank stare followed by an F.U. I would have
done the same thing at their age.
Anyhow, this thread is way off topic now and just bound to veer farther off course, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Dude.


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 1:04 am  

You DID stereotype skateboarders as morons.
When you said: "next time read the article first. It's about a concert hall being used by skateboarders. They wouldn't care if it were a produce market instead."
Perhaps you should take your own advice. The article states that the concert hall was designed by a skateboarder.
Dillon Lin, a skaterboarder, is the Project Architect for Zaha Hadid.
To quote the article: "We design spaces that are flowing and continuous, and just by coincidence skateboarders look for that kind of continuity," Dillon Lin, an architect (and skater) at Hadid's firm, says with a wink."
To quote you: "The moron element is pretty high amongst any adults who still ride a skateboard."
Your opinions ARE based on ignorance, I assure you.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 1:11 am  

I noticed you edited your...
I noticed you edited your original post to take out the part where you said that that article proves there are tons of jazz-loving skateboarders..... because you linked to an article about a building designed by a skateboard fan.
You're being more than a little disingenuous now, because your original point was that all of these skateboarders who used this plaza were somehow jazz fans.
Jazz music and/or jazz fans are NEVER EVEN MENTIONED in the article! So your point, whatever it was, is moot.
Let's call it a day now, OK?


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 1:23 am  

You just don't get it.
My point:
It is wrong to stereotype people.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 1:30 am  

Oh jeezus...
"wrong". ...
Oh jeezus...
"wrong". OK. It's "wrong" to have an opinion based on personal experience. Gotcha.
If someone here said that much (or "most", or "a lot") of stuff made by IKEA is poorly constructed, based on their personal experience, would that be "stereotyping" IKEA?
Someone else may find a few well-constructed IKEA things, and another person may think that particle board furniture actually IS "well contructed".
Anyway, I liked the "Birth of the Cool" exhibit even though most of it wasn't new to me.


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Modern Love
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22/03/2009 1:32 am  

Please read again:
It is wrong to stereotype PEOPLE.


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scoobydubious
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22/03/2009 1:40 am  

gotcha the first...
gotcha the first time...
just chillllllax...dude. Why so angry?


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