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undesignable-46
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28/10/2006 3:32 pm  

I'm would like to have your opinion about the concept of "the confort" for furniture and the design furniture.
Lot of people said me, when they just looking a design armchair "is it confortable ?". Who create this concept ? furniture have not to Be confortable, but exciting, no ?

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vivienne
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28/10/2006 6:16 pm  

Comfortable?
For me the look of something is a lot more important than whether it is comfortable.I know that design incorporates,(or tries to),this aspect,but it doesnt matter to me.Once ive had a few drinks i could sleep on a bed of nails!!. Also, i hate the word "Design" i dont know why.


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28/10/2006 6:59 pm  

I never understood
why this should be an inevitable choice. Do you really have an hierarchie for your senses. Is hearing more important than feeling, seing more important than tasting or vice versa..Can't seating be both pleasing for the eyes and for the back? It must be some judeo-christian reflex that you have to suffer somehow to gain pleasure. As long as an object is not capable to please all the senses it should go regularely back to the drawing board, that's why designers design.


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sharplinesoldtimes
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28/10/2006 9:51 pm  

I don't think furniture you...
I don't think furniture you can smell is that good an idea. But I get your point, Koen, and I agree. Furniture you can hear, that sounds interesting.


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sharplinesoldtimes
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28/10/2006 9:53 pm  

I wonder hos Gunnar Aagaard...
I wonder hos Gunnar Aagaard Andersen's chair "Portrait Of My Mother's Chesterfield" would smell?


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sharplinesoldtimes
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28/10/2006 9:54 pm  

hos = how ... I can't stand s...
hos = how ... I can't stand spelling errors.


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koen
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28/10/2006 10:14 pm  

Well,...
the first one I ever tried out was at an furniture exhibition in Mechelen (Belgium) in 1965 and the smell was awfull.
For those who wonder what we are talking about...the link..and your first Danish lesson..
http://www.kum.dk/sw34179.asp


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undesignable-46
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28/10/2006 10:47 pm  

Expansion
expansion furniture was made also by a french artiste Cesar
"Do you really have an hierarchie for your senses." Of course not.


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dcwilson
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29/10/2006 1:27 am  

use the box!
please.


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dcwilson
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29/10/2006 1:31 am  

I do alot of expounding on things I grasp...
but these two examples leave me baffled. One looks like a hollowed out tree stump covered with pitch. The other like a bucket of exceedingly thick latex paint in the midst of being poured out. Someone explain these two pieces to me. I don't get what was being attempted.


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koen
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29/10/2006 2:28 am  

I can't speak for Cesar...
but Aagard Andersen was quite clear...at least at the time. To him it was a first step into exploring materials that would in some kind of "natural way" make there own shape. An extention of the "machine-friendly-production" If form, he said, is has to be influenced by the way things are produced, what about materials that take a particular shape by themselves. In this case by foaming. Of course he had to cast layer after layer and cast it in the shape of a chair. But at least his involvement was minimal. One of the nicest things about Aagard Andersen was that he was dead serious about humour and that to played an important role, so unlike the picture the real thing is "chocolat" brown...which by the way is not the natural colour of Polyurethane... What I remember the most is the isocyanate smell.


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29/10/2006 5:18 am  

comfort
While I don't always agree that they were successful, I think many of the designers of modern furniture considered the ergonomics of a chair just as much as they did the look itself. Eames especially. I think where you found uncomfortableness many times was when other people or companies took the original ideas and tried to mimic them or make them anew that you ran the problem of severe discomfort along with shoddy workmanship.


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azurechicken (USA)
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29/10/2006 5:38 am  

ART and DESIGN
are often in conflict it can be great art and hurt,often does...design brings balance, painfull furniture is never good design...


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designite
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29/10/2006 10:47 am  

Design furniture must be confortable
is for me a true fact as much as a confortable furniture does not have to be design . But there is a limit to this statement. Let's take the design chair for an example. A 1920's HERBST, or PAUCHARD chair's were designed according to the average people measurements, by that time. Today people got bigger not to say overweighted, so this has turned the previous design chair very uncomfortable to present bodies. Shall we blame it on DESIGN ?


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undesignable-46
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29/10/2006 12:31 pm  

Cesar
If I remenber, AA use different step in the process. He build this sculpture step by step. Cesar use the same kind of process but without the intention to fix it in a formor make a form. The form had to be a expansion. Most of the expansion was destroy after the performance. there is a big Sofa performance which was make in live for the Tv.


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