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Folkert (NL)
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18/04/2010 11:12 pm  

Hi all,

we have bought 3 Vintage Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs, but
how can we see when these chairs has been made?
Under the leg is a signature "Knoll International"

Thanks

Folkert
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19/04/2010 3:44 am  

color dates them as well as t...
color dates them as well as the label
but, does it really matter?


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Folkert (NL)
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19/04/2010 3:55 am  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
Hi, thanks for you reply.
No, it doesn't matter, but I am just curious.
2 of them are more grey then white.
One of them have number 64 on it. IS this a year or
just a number?
Thanks,
Folkert
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Folkert (NL)
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22/04/2010 2:21 am  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
Nobody???
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22/04/2010 3:11 am  

Good question - timeless...
Good question - timeless design!!!


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Folkert (NL)
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22/04/2010 11:04 am  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
I have tried to find some information on the internet (google),
but no topic can be found.
I hope someone can help me because I would like to know.....
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Folkert
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J.J. (FIN)
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22/04/2010 12:54 pm  

First off, I'm afraid there's...
First off, I'm afraid there's no way - no matter what - to date your chairs exactly, as to my knowledge the production years/dates were not stamped on these chairs - the fact Knoll didn't use stickers on their European version Tulips (unlike in the US) isn't going to help either...I've had 2 sets of these chairs, in both cases their history were known: the only difference I noticed between my late 50's and the mid-60's period Tulip chairs was the fabric used on the cushions (wool/cotton) - on both sets the cushions were attached to the chairs with a rope instead of Velcro - I think this is what distinguish the earlier examples from the later; if you could provide us a good photo or two (especially from the seat area, underneath the cushion), someone here might at least be able to tell if your chairs are "vintage" or later/current production; also a rough estimate of the age could possibly be made using the patina (yellowing etc.) & cushions (if original) as pointers...


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Folkert (NL)
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22/04/2010 11:33 pm  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
Thanks for you reply.
I will make photos soon but they are stored now.
2 of the 3 chairs have some kind of metal disc in the middle of the seat.
The other one is fabricated with a round plate with screws in it.
The first two are more green/cream then white.
I understand you can not know the exact date, but an indication would me nice.
Thanks,
Folkert
Netherlands


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ankh1980
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23/04/2010 5:23 am  

Knoll International
Knoll Associates became Knoll International in 1969... these chairs probably date to the 1970's.


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J.J. (FIN)
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23/04/2010 10:59 am  

Knoll International
In Europe, they were stamped this way from early on, possibly from the get-go...


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Folkert (NL)
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23/04/2010 11:36 am  

age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
Friends of us also have the Tulip Chiars chairs, but have no 'Knoll International' signature/stamp under the leg but a 'Knoll' sticker under the seat.
2 of our chairs are manufactured with a casted steel leg and the other
normal steel. I think the last one must be newer. This one also have 4 round circles under the seat where the put some velcro for the cushion.
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Folkert
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Folkert (NL)
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23/04/2010 1:30 pm  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
@ankh1980; Thanks, so they are after '69.
So the number '64' in one of the legs is just a number.....
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Folkert
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J.J. (FIN)
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23/04/2010 1:39 pm  

^..not necessarily. Let me...
^..not necessarily. Let me try again: if your Tulips are of European origin, the "Knoll International" -stamp doesn't qualify as an indication of their age.


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Folkert (NL)
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23/04/2010 2:01 pm  

Age of Saarinen (Knoll) Tulip Chairs
OK. So this only concerns the US Tulip?
Back to square one...
Someone else??
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Folkert
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whitespike
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23/04/2010 9:31 pm  

Like it has been stated,...
Like it has been stated, there is no real way to know without knowing the person who bought the thing. It's a shame, but you have to realize that no one knew these would be so collectable ... so there was no reason to have a date on them.


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