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mark737
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30/10/2020 4:37 pm  

Looking at the chair posted by User 49 I saw many examples of this chair, which appears to be its inspiration.  Almost every seller lists it as by Erik Buch (or Buck),  with many calling it model 89 made by Anderstrup Mobelfabrik.  Based on this thread with @lexi 's catalog  pic, it was made by Anderstrup but the model # was 88 or B88.  Has anyone found any documentation linking Buch to this chair or Anderstrup?  

  https://designaddict.com/community/identification/Denmark-Chair-ID3296/

Lauritz, by the way, listed a set in 2014 as model 88 by Anderstrup with no mention of Buch.  Then in 2019, they listed another set as model 89 by Erik Buch for Anderstrup.  That set of six went for 450 DKK , or about $70.

 

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30/10/2020 5:36 pm  

@mark737

Who the Buck is Anderstrup?

Does somebody ever seen an Anderstrup stamp or tag? A couple of years ago Zephyr once wrote that he saw an Anderstrup label, maybe he can remember that.

By the way, Lauritz is absolutely unfit for use as source, every Lauritz auction house has a different managing director who acts independently, and only a few managing directors know what they are doing. That is why the fluctuation among Lauritz managers is very high, at least in Germany. Generally the Lauritz auction houses in Denmark are more competent than elsewhere in Europe, and especially in Germany and especially here in Hamburg Lauritz is nothing else than a disaster. I mean by that, if you use Lauritz as source, you always have to take care to the city in which the auction house is located. If it's Germany, forget it.

 


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30/10/2020 6:09 pm  

@mvc. This is the only label I could find.

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30/10/2020 6:17 pm  

@mvc  Good info on Lauritz, and yes, I have come to see (with your guidance) that their attributions are no better than the average 1stDibs dealer.

Here's another shot of an Anderstrup label - appears to be the legal tag on some chairs imported into US.  None of the model 88 chairs that I saw had marks other than red "Made in Denmark" ink stamps.

This website has some great pictures from the 70's and 80's of Anderstrup's factory:

https://arkiv.dk/vis/813887

 

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30/10/2020 6:20 pm  

Well, but it's an import/export label, which does only indicate that Anderstrup also produced the furniture. As far as I know, Anderstrup is not included in the list of danish furnituremakers as control member.
And many of the chairs attributed to Buck are not designed by him in my opinion, such as the chair Mark pictured above.


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30/10/2020 6:33 pm  

I suppose that all models made by Anderstrup with the pictured design features are not designed by Erik Buck. And there are a lot of chair models with these backrest design features, and none of them is designed by Buck.

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30/10/2020 6:49 pm  

@mvc. Not all Danish furntiture makers made it to that "control" list, and I am not sure if it was still around in the 70's and 80's,when Anderstrup were active. Different times. Furniture safety labels became a legal requirement especially if your furniture had upholstery and was a useful way for companies to advertise themselves as the producer of the furniture. I would think the archive photos would be evidence enough of their existence.

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30/10/2020 6:52 pm  

For sure they did exist, even more than hundred years, but that was not the question. I just doubt they ever worked with one of the known designers at that time.


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30/10/2020 6:54 pm  

@mark737. I have used that archive site many times when trying to dig deep in my searching 🧐 

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30/10/2020 11:38 pm  

This photo pretty clearly shows the complete chair connected to Anderstrup. I have never found a legit designer documentation associated with them, and have assumed they were anonymous in-house designers.

Lauritz is useless for written attributions, but they are one of the better auction houses when it comes to photographing makers marks on furniture, if present, and archiving them in a manner that is easily found through Google searches. There are quite a few marks in my collection which came from Lauritz, which I could not find elsewhere. Their photo archive alone makes it worth having to look at their misattributions constantly.

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30/10/2020 11:53 pm  

I think the description aptly describes their aesthetic.

"...chairs, which are safe when American families need something to sit on"


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31/10/2020 12:06 am  
Posted by: mark737

I think the description aptly describes their aesthetic.

"...chairs, which are safe when American families need something to sit on"

Exactly, and if you look at the chairs on the left in the picture, you will also know why the company went down the toilet.

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31/10/2020 12:29 am  

"Hey you, American, do you need something safe to sit on?"

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03/11/2021 4:34 pm  

@mark737 . Found chairs with NOVA label that are the same as the Andestrup 88 chairs.

Also IG link for Nova Mobler info.

https://www.instagram.com/p/COk7cFSHbzw/ site set up by @drpoulet (Member on this Forum)

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03/11/2021 5:26 pm  

@lexi  Interesting. These are marked Nova as well.  

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