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Kwestrom
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03/11/2023 9:02 pm  
  • Dear community, these 4 teak dining chairs came from a charity shop, and are each stamped Møller Models, yet I cannot identify them online.  In photos the number 80 chair appears to have a smaller back.  Thoughts? Thank you. 
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Browkin
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14/11/2023 11:26 pm  

Ha-ha. That's interesting. Maybe you might write to the Moller factory and ask for their comment? Luckily they still exist. 

https://www.jlm.dk


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Herringbone
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17/11/2023 5:59 pm  

@kwestrom I cannot identify it either. But the design makes sense. From the mid 70s to the mid 80s (a not very well documented period of Danish furniture design) Moller's developed several chairs that kinda looked like yours. Model 80 was the first one, but it looked a bit more refined thant yours. Model 86 was another. That one has a back that is high like yours but somewhat tapered. And there also was model 69, designed in 1985. It's quite similar to yours but it's an armchair. You find pictures of them in the Danish furniture index (google it). My guess is, that your chairs are from the same series, designed around 1985 by one of Niels Otto Moeller's sons (because he died in 1982). Since at that time the company just counted the model numbers in chronological order, the model number of your chair could be 87 (just a very wild guess).

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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Eddie
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17/11/2023 7:09 pm  

Thank you both for your replies!  Somehow, while posting the question (my first post) I became banned, and there was no way I could see to ask to be unbanned.  So, this is me, kwestrom, using my husband's email.

Thanks to Browkin, I did reach out to the Moller company (with more photos), and they confirmed this is a #86 chair.

Herringbone, I deeply appreciate your helpful answer.  Thank you for your time and consideration.

Is there anyway to become NOT banned?

 

 


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Kyle Barrett
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23/12/2023 9:06 pm  

Hi there,

I saved a very short amount of information from the Danish Furniture Index before it went offline indefinitely. It appears to be the 86 mode, just to save you the email potentially 🙂

Kind regards,

Kyle


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Browkin
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24/12/2023 1:41 pm  

For some reason the Mollers chairs became increasingly ugly in the later models in the 1980s. 🙂
My favorites are the 78 and 79 models from the 1960s.


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Browkin
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24/12/2023 1:50 pm  

If you look at their today's homepage, they also advertise these models on first page, 75, 77, 78, 79. All designed in 1950s - 1960s. It was probably a damn fruitful time that created a certain strength for furniture design. Not only in Denmark, but in several industry countries in Europe. What you think? Is it more of a culture and the right time for furniture design that was in the air at the time or is it related to the individual development of the company?


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Herringbone
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25/12/2023 1:50 am  

@eddie-2 Sorry for a late reply, I didn’t see your post sooner. I‘m afraid there‘s no real way right now to get unbanned. It‘s a bug, oftentimes it helps to  log out and log in again but sometimes it doesn’t. In this case somebody would have to unban you manually but I haven’t been able to contact anybody from DA for a while now. So maybe you just use your new name. Sorry. 

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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Herringbone
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25/12/2023 2:21 am  

@browkin To fully answer your question one would have to write a thesis. The short answer is that many factors came together in the 50s in Denmark. Modern furniture design was a relatively new and exciting field back then with many shapes and forms to explore and many ways to.  There were many well trained designers, ready to take the modern paths. They all had a mutual understanding of how to approach furniture design. They used simple forms and clean lines because that was en vogue at the time. There also was a highly developed furniture industry with many capable producers who all needed original designs. And there was a huge export market which also asked for many new designs. Plastic had not taken the world yet. Wood, especially teak wood, was favored by makers and consumers, and unlike today it was available in large quantities and relatively cheap. If you add this all up, you get two hundred to three hundred architects all designing teak furniture for more than a thousand factories and cabinetmakers at the same time. Much of the outcome was rubbish. But the best ten percent were fantastic. Niels Otto Møller was one of the best. 

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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Browkin
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25/12/2023 11:21 am  

@herringbone: Thanks for the great answer. Agreed that N.O. Moller is one of the best furniture manufacturers. It's probably no coincidence that the companies that have survived to this day were pretty strong already at the beginning.

What key skills do you think particularly helped Moller to belong to the best?

so for example:
- focus on a clear product range (mainly chairs)
- extreme attention to quality
- perhaps an extraordinary attention to detail
- very motivated and professional team?

Why do you think they haven't been able to release new, similarly successful models such as the 77, 78, 79 in the last 50 years? PS: I mean after the 1980s. 

 


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