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louie_louie
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25/06/2017 2:32 am  

Hi all,

Found this standing lamp and found it really interesting but cannot identify the maker this logo belongs to. It's just an "S"... This looks like an Anders Pehrson design for Atelje Lyktan but it's not their logo.

I attach a picture of the logo and the lamp. Could someone help?

Thanks!
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DrPoulet
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25/06/2017 3:28 pm  

The "S" logo most probably stands for some electrical standard. It is not a brand.

I have the same on a Ledu lamp sticker...

edit: sorry picture upside down and cannot fix it!


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lexi
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25/06/2017 8:39 pm  

Hi,

Slow day here, so I went searching Swedish lighting. Checked the usual suspects. No luck.

Decided it had a 70's vibe, so added that to the search.

Finally, something very like your light. Slightly different shaped base but lots of other similarities.

Lexi.

Borje Claes.designer.

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louie_louie
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26/06/2017 3:42 am  

Thank you everyone for your insight!

Didn't find many info on the Lexi brand, though. Is it a swedish brand?


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lexi
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26/06/2017 10:20 am  

Morning louie_louie,

Your reply made me smile!!! Maybe you made a mistake while typing but"Lexi" is not a brand ( I am lexi). No wonder you did not find much info....

Borje Claes was a designer of a small number of lamps in the 70's and 80's.

He is Swedish and apparently designed for some Swdish manufacturers.

I found all this information when I googled "design Borje Claes" and there are some labelled examples.

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lexi.

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louie_louie
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26/06/2017 12:46 pm  

Ahahahah no wonder then!

So sorry for the confusion Lexi! 🙂

That example you provided may have hit the spot, indeed... Just wondering: what led you to guess it was a swedish design? 🙂


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lexi
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26/06/2017 1:22 pm  

No problem; glad we got that sorted out!!!

That logo, with the S,appears on a lot of Swedish lamps and as Dr. Poulet said is most likely just a safety label.

Other variations of that S mark in photos attached.

Lexi.

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DrPoulet
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27/06/2017 12:02 am  

Hi. It took me a while to find out but the S+ logo is the Swiss safety mark, the S without a + like on lexi's lamp is the Swedish one.

On your picture, it seems that you have the S+ Logo. Swiss lamp?


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lexi
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27/06/2017 12:52 am  

Dr. Poulet,

I am somewhat confused !

The picture of your Ledu lamp has two different "S" marks.

- the stylized S, like the ones in the second set of photos I posted, usually found on Swedish lamps

- and the S+

and yet your lamp is clearly marked "made in Sweden"

Am I missing something?

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lexi.

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DrPoulet
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27/06/2017 1:31 am  

Hi Lexi. I am far from being an expert in this field but I would guess that the labels prove that the lamp is conform to the electrical norms in the concerned countries. For my ledu lamp that would mean: Sweden (S), Norway (N), Denmark (D), Switzerland (S+) and Germany (VDE).

What I am unsure of is how compulsory these marks are for a lamp to be sold on a given market.

In the case of the poster lamp, giving that there seems to be the Swiss mark only, my guess is that either the lamp was made in Switzerland and used the local certification, either it was meant to be sold on the Swiss market.


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lexi
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27/06/2017 5:05 pm  

Thank you for clarifying that.I did a bit of research on electrical certification and all the marks on your lamp represent registered independant testing bodies in each of the countries you mention.

So S= Semko( in Sweden), N=Nemko (norway ) and so on....

The S+ is the Swiss safety mark and is "voluntary" according to the ESTI( a Swiss certification body)

Below is a quote from that site.

" Issuing the Swiss safety mark in accordance with NEV (Ordinance for Electrical Low-Voltage Products) on application from manufacturers or vendors in Switzerland and abroad based on attestations of conformity or test reports from accredited testing bodies or international certificates. The safety mark corresponds to Certification Category 2 (type testing and market surveillance"

So your guess was a good one re:- either made in or for sale in Switzerland

Many thanks again, I now know a lot more about european lamp marks/labels!!

Lexi.

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louie_louie
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27/06/2017 6:04 pm  

Hi all,

Wow... This thread just escalated to electroics/labelling/certification specifics... This was really interesting.. However this still raises a question - if the lamp in the original post seems to be a swedish design (by Borje Claes) how would it have only the S+ (Switzerland conformity) label?

Would it be manufactured/designed in Sweden and only sold in Switzerland? Would it be be manufactured/designed in Sweden but non-compliant (and hence, not marketed???) to the swedish standards?

There is one last conclusion that seems correct - the "compliance" and certification to the swedish standards was merely "voluntary" (like Lexi mentioned regarding the switzerland ones). Lamp matched the switzerland standards but the manufacturer "chose" not to meet the swedish ones?

OR

swedish sticker simply came out.... OR lamp is not a swedish design (this seems unlikely)...

Any more options?! 😀


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DrPoulet
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01/07/2017 12:22 am  

I guess the lamp might indeed be Swedish after all... I found a couple of them on Lauritz Sweden but no indication of maker / designer...

http://www.lauritz.com/sv/auktion/golvlampa-1970-tal/i1936196/


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01/07/2017 8:12 pm  

I searched a bit more and came across a Swedish interiors blog; someone posted a Borje Claes lamp and one of the replies was from the designers son:

Borje Claes son writes:

November 27, 2009 at. 11:38 sc

My dad worked with lights for many years, from the 60th century until 1988. Production was in Bredaryd, outside V

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DrPoulet
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02/07/2017 11:59 am  

Wow Lexi. That's impressive!

Do you know from which year this catalog is?

To link it with the Swiss sticker, I found out that the first IKEA shop outside of Scandinavia was opened in Switzerland in 1973.


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