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Kyle Barrett
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16/03/2018 11:52 am  

Hi,

Im looking at a set of wishbone chairs that look old and have been woefully rewoven. The lady insists theyre vintage along with the rest of her furniture, and they were rewoven in 1991.

I'd expect to see Carl Hansen stamped on the underside of the seat, where the backrest meets the seat.

Were many unmarked? Any construction elements a giveaway?

I have some pictures too.
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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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16/03/2018 12:19 pm  

They might have had stickers that got removed. Got any photos showing the whole chair?


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DrPoulet
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16/03/2018 12:43 pm  

Hmmm. That is strange, the numbers embossed strongly suggest it is a knock down construction. Picture of the whole chair?


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Spanky
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16/03/2018 3:46 pm  

I just finished a set of eight that belong to a Danish couple who moved here from Denmark. They bought them in Denmark 40 years ago. Some have labels and some just have incised numbers. So it's entirely possible that yours are legit but yeah, overall photos would help.

I know I've seen very old Wegner chairs with just single incised digits, no other marks. I might even have photos somewhere. I'll look.


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16/03/2018 4:14 pm  

I believe those numbers pertain to specific Carl Hansen inspectors. I have a "5" in the same skinny font on my CH23.

There is a thread about this somewhere in the DA archives. However, it was before the shift from third-party image hosting, so the photos may be lost.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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16/03/2018 4:39 pm  

It was my thread. As I recall the embossed stamp is the frame assembler. The pencil initials are the weaver.


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Spanky
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16/03/2018 4:49 pm  

Yeah, that's what I remember was the case.

Side note: I saw a Wishbone recently with a barcode label where the usual label is. The owner said the chair was genuine---and also new, but couldn't name the retailer who sold it. I got the sense that the owner wasn't knowledgable about Danish furniture and might not be aware that there are fakes out there. Is there a US retailer, like DWR or whatever, who would put a barcode on a genuine Wegner chair? Seems like something you'd only see on a fake. There weren't any other alarm bells that went off but I also didn't look at the chair closely at all. The weaving was as it should be for a real one but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I wish I'd looked at the whole chair more closely.


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16/03/2018 5:12 pm  

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Spanky
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16/03/2018 6:36 pm  

Yeah, the weaving is far easier to replicate than the frame! The only other fakes I've seen in person were very obvious. Sloppy, actually.


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Kyle Barrett
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17/03/2018 11:57 am  

I asked the lady to send over some more pictures. The other pictures I had were all of the chairs together.


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Spanky
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17/03/2018 1:46 pm  

it's hard to tell from a photo taken at that angle so I took one from the same angle of an authentic Wishbone that I happen to have right now. They're very, very close if not identical.


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Kyle Barrett
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17/03/2018 3:01 pm  

Thanks Spanky, what are they made from? Beech?

It looks close, proportionally speaking, but I just don't feel informed enough on the matter.

Can you steam bend all woods , as a slight aside?


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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17/03/2018 3:27 pm  

They are beech. Some woods steam bend more readily than others.

I think they are real.


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Spanky
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18/03/2018 4:29 am  

Yours is beech, my clients


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Kyle Barrett
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18/03/2018 1:28 pm  

They're not market value otherwise I wouldn't be looking, but they arent cheap cheap, so I'm gonna have to make a decision.

Thanks for your help guys, I'll tell you if I go for it.


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