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Reamie
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23/11/2015 9:12 pm  

I'm going to see this chair this week and only have these two pictures to go on. It's not cheap, but not as pricey as it could be! Does anyone have any insight into it? Does it look like the real thing? The rippling on the seat bothers me(more so because I want it smooth, not as an indicator of its inauthenticity!)


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24/11/2015 12:57 am  

At first I thought the welding looked rough, but I have found pictures of originals that are as rough. There seems to be something off about the label though, it's a little different from ones I have seen upon researching, there's a number/code running across it. I have asked for a better photo, which I'm waiting for!


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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24/11/2015 5:42 pm  

Aside from the writing over the top the label is the same as this one:
http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/poul-m-volther-corona-lounge-chairs-mo...
Why do you believe it is not the real thing?


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24/11/2015 7:00 pm  

Thanks for the reply Leif, they're the ones I saw too. I've learned to have a little fear/scepticism about listings from Lauritz by reading others advice, and I guess I'm not fully confident yet in my own skills at spotting the small things someone with more knowledge might see. I'm hopefully going to see it on Friday.


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24/11/2015 7:02 pm  

Also I haven't managed to find one with the same wine red leather upholstery! I'm a suspicious sort....!


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24/11/2015 10:14 pm  

Leif what do you think? Am I being overly suspicious? It's enough of my money to make me hesitate...!


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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24/11/2015 10:38 pm  

I am no expert on Volther's Corona chair. Here is a specimen with leather that might be the same color. At least in some photos it looks the same; in others it looks completely different:
http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/poul-m-volther-corona-easy-chair-model...
From the fact that it has a correct looking Erik Jørgensen sticker, we can deduce the fact that it is NOT a knock-off or or other form of unlicensed reproduction.
Therefore, unless you suspect that that the sticker is not authentic, I think it follows that the chair is authentic. If someone just scribbled on the sticker, I wouldn't worry about that any. Being stainless steel there isn't any other ready surface to scribble on, so the sticker is likely to attract such treatment.
I only posted the listings from Lauritz because it shows that there are chairs out there with the same sticker on them. I don't trust Lauritz to say what a piece is without verification/documentation, but when Lauritz shows the sticker it speaks for itself.
Final point about the ripples in the leather: I would suggest grabbing the points of each back segment and try pressing them inwards. If the rippled segment compresses more easily than the other, I would be worried about the structural integrity of the substructure. I don't know what the substructure is. Possibly plywood, metal, fiberglass...? If it is plywood or fiberglass and cracking or broken, that would be a big deal. It might also be the case that it is metal, and just got bent inwards, and you can bend it outwards and fix the ripples just like that.


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24/11/2015 10:50 pm  

Thanks so much Leif! I'm pretty sure the internal structure is plywood, I thought the rippling looked strange. Maybe it just needs smoothing out, I hope that's not just wishful thinking. I think the colour in the pictures I have up is darker. It never occurred to me the rippling could be due to internal damage, thanks Leif, something I'll have to investigate on Friday!


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25/11/2015 12:30 am  

That kind of rippling in leather often occurs as the foam compresses with age and the leather stretches a bit with age. It doesn't take much. If it really bothers you, you could get someone to open a seam and slip an extra layer of thin foam inside, then hand-stitch the opening closed again.


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Reamie
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25/11/2015 12:45 am  

Thanks Spanky, I can't wait to see it in person, I'll put it up if I manage to get it!


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25/11/2015 3:05 am  

Spanky, you could very well be right about the cause of the rippling. In fact, I very much hope you are for the sake of the chair. The only thing that makes me consider internal damage is the fact that only one "segment" shows rippling. I would have expected more uniform aging of the foam and leather. Or for the seat to show the rippling...
Reamie, you might also look for some way that air (oxygen) might have gotten to the foam in that one "segment." Something like a cut in the leather, or a rip in the seam, some way that air would get blown out and sucked back in....


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25/11/2015 3:03 pm  

If the chair is of newer production, it most likely has urethane foam which wouldn't be as vulnerable to changes from air exposure. And leather breathes, anyway. It's latex foam that has been covered in vinyl that is well preserved, except where air seeps in and out at the stitched seams and at any cracks.
It may simply that the inside back panel of that cushion section was not cut quite small enough. When a cushion is curved like that, the panel on the concave side has to be cut a tad smaller and the bigger, convex back has to be eased to fit it. When this is done well (which entails easing the extra length of the perimeter of the back of the cushion when sewing it to the slightly smaller inside panel---so that the seam doesn't have ripples and tucks), you won't be able to tell.
The more I think about it, the more I think that's what's going on. And if that's what the issue is, I think you're stuck with it. If you had someone take the cushion apart and redo it, they'd have to restitch most of it along the exact stitching lines as before, and with leather that means ending up with very perforated seams which will be more prone to ripping. (Since needle holes in leather are permanent--they don't "heal".)
I don't think the ripples look bad, though! I mean, if that helps anyway. It's pretty typical of leather furniture for one reason or another.


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25/11/2015 3:22 pm  

Hell,
2 shots of Botox, and a bit of Restalyn should cure the wrinkles for a few months. But I'd leave it alone. It's lovely.
Best,
Your Aunt Mark


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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25/11/2015 4:09 pm  

I just disassembled some dining chairs from the 60s, probably early 60s, made by Søren Willadsen. They had leather seats, latex foam cushioning, and a plywood substructure. And the latex foam was in virtually perfect condition. It had almost not even started to yellow, except at the extreme edges. So leather, despite it breathability, will also serve to protect latex foam over a 50-ish year time frame.
I suppose the scribble on the tag might indicate that the chair is a "factory second" if sparky is right about the stitching having been done wrong. I find eased stitches a pain in regular fabric. I can't imagine how unpleasant it must be in leather. I don't see why the factory would not just toss the bad cover and redo it, unless there was some constraint with matching the leather, and that leather does seem to be an unusual color.


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