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21/01/2014 4:30 pm  

Hi Forum, I picked up two chairs yesterday that are often attributed to Milo Baughman and Thayer Coggin, sometimes called the "Z" chair, because of the angle of the chrome frame at the back of the chair. But I contacted Thayer Coggin before I bought the chairs, and they said that the chairs were not designed by Baughman, and not produced by Thayer Coggin. I've seen a few dealers on 1stdibs describe the chair as a "cy mann" chair. Can anyone confirm a proper attribution for the chair? I've looked at a bunch of listings for the chair, and none of them seem to be marked. I've included a photo of the chairs.


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21/01/2014 6:50 pm  

nice chairs
craigslist find? estate sale? I have been trying to ID these as well and have not have any luck.


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21/01/2014 7:10 pm  

CL
Got 'em on CL.


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21/01/2014 7:29 pm  

well
everything about them says milo
link to a pretty much identical pair. Doesn't say labeled, but does attribute it. it is that detail with the arm connection (the angle at the back) that is so distinctive.
http://nyshowplace.com/Pair-of-Mid-Century-Milo-Baughman-Chrome-Lounge-C...


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21/01/2014 7:31 pm  

but
also found a pair attrib to cy mann....hum


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21/01/2014 7:37 pm  

Not Milo
yes, that's what I'm saying. The chair is often misattributed to Milo Baughman, even by fancy dealers on 1stdibs. I called Thayer Coggin directly, and they said they did not manufacture the chair, and Baughman did not design the chair. So it seems like one of those common mistakes, like attributing the barcelona daybed to Mies van Der Rohe.
My question is whether anyone knows the designer/manufacturer. Some of the 1st dibs chairs reference Cy Mann, but I can't confirm this. I'm trying to solve the mystery of the attribution, and to find out if anyone has any information.


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22/01/2014 4:04 am  

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It's not really a mystery, this sort of chrome style is just one of those now ubiquitous things that gets knocked off and out by various furniture manufacturers... imported chairs like this are still in today's retail marketplace.
I don't know who particularly but I suppose it's one of those Monarch/Regal/Acme/Good Ol'Boy Bros/General Office Suppliers type companies that made it.
Sleazy fabric is the first giveaway for me on these things most of the time, the real deal tends to be more on the exquisitely fine side, but sometimes the "good stuff" can get pretty tacky too.


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22/01/2014 5:34 pm  

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Thanks for your input objectworship, but I'm afraid that doesn't really answer the question. The chair fetches a very high price on 1stdibs, and the construction is very well done. A lot of the knock off chrome chairs have a much thinner profile, and are noticeably worse.
A dealer in Boston has listed this as a Cy Mann chair. When I called him, he told me Cy Mann was a furniture maker in New York that did limited and custom designs. Unlike Thayer Coggin/Baughman furniture, which was widely distributed, Cy Mann furniture had a more limited release, and was possibly only available in their showroom in New York. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm this. But if true, it means that the piece is not a cheap knock off, but an important example that is often misattributed to Baughman.
I'm just hoping someone out there can tell me a bit more about Cy Mann. . .


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22/01/2014 6:08 pm  

I have friends who bought a p...
I have friends who bought a pair of these around 1969 or 1970, from a furniture store here in Oregon. Their chairs are not marked. They remembered the chairs as having been an expensive purchase for them at the time..


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22/01/2014 8:04 pm  

Thanks
Thanks tchp. That's good to know. They don't happen to have any more information on how they acquired them, do they?


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22/01/2014 8:41 pm  

I've seen these chairs with...
I've seen these chairs with at least 4-5 different labels (Flair being the 1st to come to mind). It seems like everyone decided on one knockoff version of the Baughman original and ran with it


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23/01/2014 6:13 am  

Josh,
No, they could not rem...
Josh,
No, they could not remember any details. I told them about the Milo Baughman attribution, but that was not something that they had any recollection of.


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23/01/2014 6:47 am  

I have a similar issue
I have a similar problem... do you guys think these are Milo Baughman? Or similar?
I'm thinking not, can't find exact examples, and Milo is UBER rare in Australia unfortunately...
Thanks!
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/heidelberg-heights/chairs/original-vintag...


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23/01/2014 9:47 pm  

Milo Baughman
for comparison-


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