ID HELP - Huge Old Art Glass Vase - Loetz? or What  

I just purchased a Palm Beach Estate contents and need help with this very large iridescent art glass vase. Bulbous squatty in shape with pinched design that semi swirls towards the top which has a ruffle - clear with iridized in color - finished pontil on the bottom. Measures: ( 10 1/4" H x 9 1/4" wide across the bottom & 6 1/2" across the top - the circumference round is about 32" inches ). Some that have seen it in person have said WoW Stunning - mostlikely Loetz. I need everyone's help on this one. ALSO I am posting for ID a fantastic just over 20 pounds - Cut Carved & Frosted -3 1/2" Thick - 10 1/4" H - Abstract Vase - take a look. MANY THANKS for you're time and efforts in helping.
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