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Zephyr
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16/09/2016 4:23 am  

Going to try and hit up an estate sale before work tomorrow, as it looks like there might be some nice pieces. The pieces of interest are listed as follows:
Fritz Hansen Credenza/Sideboard
Slagelse Mobelvaek Danish modern dining table and chairs
Anyone recognize the buffet? Looks to be teak, tambour doors, and sits on the floor (no legs or stand). Guessing it is later production, 70-80s. Also guessing that it is probably an internal design, as nothing like it comes up in any searches. Of course the attribution could be totally wrong too. Not too crazy about the units that sit on the floor, so I doubt I would pull the trigger unless it is in spectacular condition or or super cheap.
What I am really interested in are the dinning chairs. I really need a nice set of dining chairs for my dining table that I currently have (NO Moller - Gudme Moblefabrik). I am guessing that the dining table and chairs will be sold as a set. The table is pretty obviously Slagelse Mobelvaerk, which the listing states and is pretty easily confirmed from a basic search. What is interesting is that the chairs are supposedly also Slagelse Mobelvaerk, but if you look closely, 5 of the 7 visible chairs look more like Moller 77's to me. The 2 visible chairs closest to the FH piece are clearly different design than the other 5. I know the pictures are pretty bad, but anyone see the same thing I am? Also, how does Slagelse Mobelvaerk rate in quality, as compared to other Danish mfgs? I am not too familiar with much of their production....
I also have a line on some Henning Kjaernulf dining chairs, 2 of the Model 225 wishbone style, and 4 of the guys in the picture, all made by Bruno Hansen. They will all need a full refinish, and seats rewoven; not something I am averse to, but I also am in the middle of house projects right now, and taking time out for refinishing chairs is less than ideal for a little while. Any opinions on the >possible< Moller 77s versus the Kjaernulf's?
Thanks in advance for the input...
Edit: forgot the "r" in Mobelvaerk.
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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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16/09/2016 8:46 am  

N.O. møller did not design for Gudme.
I don't think the credenza is Fritz Hansen. There must be some mistake there. And I share your sentiments about it.
The last Slagelse chair I saw was very, very nicely made, but it almost one of a kind.
And those chairs do look like Møller 77s to me. Hard to go wrong with a Møller chair. The earlier ones are better than the later ones. Check for the Møller models stamp. It is post circa 71. Check the joint between the side rails and rear legs. It can loosen. The chair is not damaged, but when it gets a new seat you would want to knock it apart and re-glue the joint. The super early Møllers had diagonal screws at each corner that would keep the joints tight even after the glue joint loosened.


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16/09/2016 4:36 pm  

Thanks Leif, always appreciate your input.
I guess I fell for the false internet attribution on my table. Everyone out there is attributing the round pedestal table from Gudme to N.O. Møller, and I suppose I liked that attribution enough not to question it too much. Do you know who did design for Gudme?


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16/09/2016 5:19 pm  

I don't think a designer's name was given in the catalog.


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16/09/2016 10:20 pm  

They were 77s! 5 of them, and 2 other unidentified Danish chairs of mid to high quality. Must have been superstitious or something with the odd numbers. The 77s appear vintage, but the marking are so faint, you can barely even see them, unless you pull back the Danish cord a bit.
Table is pretty solid construction, and in great condition so that is a plus.
They said the credenza was marked Fritz Hansen in the back, but would not help me move it to check. Considering I did not really want it, and they didn't identify the Møllers, I didn't even bother looking any more closely.
Also picked up a sweet little expanding teak tea cart, so it was a pretty good morning. Thanks for the input on the Gudme table. It makes good sense in hindsight.


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16/09/2016 10:50 pm  

photos, including tea cart?


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17/09/2016 3:21 am  

here you are cd...
I need to pick the table up and 2 chairs that I did not ID yet, tomorrow.
Tea Cart....
is teak frame, teak veneer top. Top slides to one side and then flips open, exposing teak edged melamine(?) expanded surface. Smaller bottom tray is detached. Not sure if the wheels are original, but they do look 60s. Frame is assembled by screws, which are capped with teak bungs. Wasn't really planning on getting a tea cart today, but sometimes you are forced into it when prices are right.
29.5" long closed (59" open) x 19" wide x 23.5" tall (approximate, as I think it is whole numbers in metric




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17/09/2016 3:42 am  

Møller Model 77 chairs are in descent shape, but definitely have some cord issues on a 4 of the 5. Normal knicks and scratches, with a few darker stains; 4 of 5 have mildly loose side rails to rear legs, as Leif suspected. One has a repaired front leg to side rail.
Leif, couldn't really decipher what you were saying about the markings, but all of them are really light. Looks like 4 of the 5 have the two circular marks, and one has what looks like a linear mark under the cord (could just be super worn circular marks). Going strictly from patina and condition, I would estimate late 50s to mid 60s on manufacturing vintage. No screws, so they are not the really early vintage.
They definitely need a good oiling, and re-cording in the not-so-distant future.
Also found an attribution on the internet for the Slagelse table as Kaj Winding from 1950s. Nothing definitive though. Table is in really amazing condition, which I am sure can be attributed to the ratty covers that came with it. Always hated using table covers, seemed like such a shame to cover up such beauty, but I am sure happy they used them! Will post 2 errant chairs and table tomorrow after picking them up.




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17/09/2016 3:54 am  

Also had the nice little bonus of picking up what I think is Murano glass, and a 7 place setting of Dansk Fjord flatware.




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17/09/2016 6:57 am  

I was happy for you until you mentioned the Dansk Fjord. Now I am jealous.
As to the mark on the Møllers: it sounds like you are describing a post ~1971 mark. It is a very light almost illegible thing very often. But always there. In the 60s Møller was pretty good about using medallions. But 1950s chairs just have the stray factory gibberish on them. At least in my experience.


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17/09/2016 3:00 pm  

They were well used then, because they look to have 50 or 60 years of use on them. Not surprising, however, considering the beauty of the form and function of Møller chairs.
Here is what I could get for the markings...




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17/09/2016 3:22 pm  

That is the later mark. I suppose it bears saying that I've seen an even later, like 80s or 90s I would guess, Møller sticker.
They could well be 45 years old. I am not sure one could actually distinguish the average condition of a 45 year old chair, from the average condition of a 50 or 60 year old chair. ?? I would think it depends largely on the behavior of the children at breakfast, and the adults at Vodka.


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17/09/2016 8:43 pm  

I am envying your new flatware too! I love that stuff. I found a bottle opener awhile back at Goodwill for a dollar but that's it.
You might see if a soap treatment or two will lighten the stains on the cord, unless you want to just redo them all sooner rather than later. It's cheap and easy---might be worth it just to see how it works, for future reference. Good practice too for when you have new seats that you want to treat before using.


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17/09/2016 9:43 pm  

I have coveted the Fjord Flatware for a while. Actually, when we were at the sale, of course, I went straight to the furniture, and my wife went else where in the house. She actually found the flatware and purchased it, wrapped it up and gave it to me for our anniversary (which is next week) after we got home. It was a pretty slick move on her part, and needless to say I am a pretty lucky guy.
When I picked the table up today I was able to see the marking on the Buffet, which was still there. The guy actually asked me how much I would give him for it, but I still just dont think I want it. I am supposed to call him at 4, and save it from being donated to Goodwill. Here is the marking. It is some sort of Hansen, but hard to tell if that is an "F" at the front, or other....
Also happy to find that the other 2 chairs are Puol Volther for Frem Rojle style. They are teak, with cord seats, but unmarked. So maybe Volther repros?



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