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DrPoulet
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29/03/2015 8:42 pm  

Dear all,I have bought this teak planter from the French equivalent of Craigslist. Very nice piece in excellent condition but the metallic part inside is missing.There is an half erased stamp inside that reads Made in Denmark among other things that I am desperatly trying to read. I think I managed to spot a name that ends in -gaard (wich doesn't say much).I managed to find the planter on several web sites but couldn't find any reliable information. Does someone recognize the stamp or have any clue about the designer or producer?Many thanks for your help!!!


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cdsilva
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30/03/2015 1:35 am  

Nice pickup. That is one of my favorite Danish planter designs. I think I've seen it previously marked BRDR Dalsgaard, as well as Illums Bolighus (which I believe was a department store that put their tags on furniture, not a manufacturer).
 
Since we're on Danish teak planters, I've got to show one I acquired a few years ago, which is my favorite. It's unmarked, but I saw a similar design listing with a Jydsk Bødker Kunst mark.


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DrPoulet
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30/03/2015 1:47 am  

Thanks for your help! the planter is indeed probably from Brdr Dalsgaard Mobelsnedkeri, Borup Denmark. Dalsgaard is almost readable (at least the -lsgaard) and the typo of the "Made in Denmark" stamp is the same than the one in the link below. 
http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?iid=300350787&lang=en&mode=detail


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simplymod
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08/08/2015 5:51 pm  

Hi there,
Your planter was designed by Magnus Olesen and sold thru Illums Bolighus. It was produced in three different widths and can be seen in their 1961 catalog. Enjoy, its a great design!


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DrPoulet
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08/08/2015 6:44 pm  

Hi simplymod,
Thank you for your comment. Timing is funny as after montes of research, I have received yesterday an email from the son of one of the founder of Brdr. Dalsgaard.
The planter I own is definitely made by Brdr. Dalsgaard in Borup, Denmark. Even if the stamp is hardly readable, it is a Dalsgaard stamp.
For a bit of background about Brdr. Dalsgaard. The company was founded in 1939 in Brorup by two brothers and closed in 1975. It was a very small company as in the 60s, they had 6 employees only.
Mr. Dalsgaard also sent me a picture of the furniture he has at home. I will post it here after asking his permission.
Back to the planter. Could you post a scan of the catalog you mention? I am very much intrigued!


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niceguy
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08/08/2015 7:24 pm  

DrPoulet and simplymod,
You guys are too much... Should I have a question regarding obscure Danish furniture or accessories I will ask you first.
I do have a question...my total knowledge of the KP jar with lid is I liked everything about this piece. Country of origin, designer, manufacturer and wood species are all unknown.
DrPoulet,
You were a great help with the model designation of my Arabia teapot.



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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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08/08/2015 11:14 pm  

I have no idea what simplymod is on about. I just looked at my Illums Bolighus (undated), and the planter is in there without design attribution. I have other vintage catalogs that show the planter with "Dalsgaard" as designer. And then there is the fact that it is clearly stamped. It is definitely Dalsgaard made and designed.
Nice to hear that you got more information on the planter from the founder. Please share!


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Spanky
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09/08/2015 3:10 am  

niceguy, pretty sure your wooden jar was made in the Phillipines or Thailand for export. The light patch in the grain is from the outer part of the tree trunk.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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09/08/2015 5:36 am  

I don't think that jar is teak. The end grain is very evenly parallel for teak, and the little rays are not very teak like.
But the light part up to is absolutely sapwood, from the outside of the tree, just as spanky says. And if it were teak, that would definitely be a suggestion that it was made outside Scandinavian, where they were very picky about using First European Quality teak that wouldn't show any sapwood.


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09/08/2015 4:10 pm  

It looks like peer wood to me, or another fruitwood.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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09/08/2015 5:16 pm  

I agree that it looks like a fruitwood. Not sure which. I am not very good at telling the fruit woods apart, and some of them, like apricot, are quite rare as lumber.


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niceguy
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09/08/2015 6:08 pm  

spanky, leif ericson and bj,
Thank you for the best suggestions. Your knowledge is greater than mine and I am grateful.


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DrPoulet
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22/08/2015 4:40 pm  

After the information i received about the Brdr. Dalsgaard company, I received some information about the planter. It was produced In "the fifties and may be also in the sixties, we don't remember who has designed it. There was a furniture designer to all models",
I also got some pictures of the furnitures the son of the founder has at home. The coffee table is the only one of this model ever made and I particularly like the telephone table.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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09/12/2015 10:50 pm  

Simplymod listed one of these on ebay, and posted his documentation along with it. The Illums Bolighus shows it uncredited. But he also shows an Anton Dam (?) that credits it to "Magnus Olesen."
Perhaps I was too harsh with Simplymod up above. But it would have been nice if he had posted this documentation here for us to see.
I suspect that the Magnus Olesen credited there is not the Magnus Olesen of the company by the same name. Owners of companies often designed for themselves. Witness Helge Sibast, or the entertaining example of Aage Pedersen for Getama, N.O. Møller. But they were always designing for their own company. And in certain cases, it is uncertain whether the design was "designed" by the owner of the company, or if it was an "in-house" design, copyrighted by the company, but drafted by an independent, and often, well-known designer.
In short, if this this would be the first documented example I have seen of the owner of one company designing for another. And I am pretty sure the evidence at hand is well short of precedent setting. Denmark is also famous for many people sharing the same name. I would also think that the owner of another company drafting designs for Brdr. Dalsgaard would be memorable enough that the family would not have forgotten.
Alternatively, it might just be a typo in the Anton Dam. There always has to be an allowance for that sort of thing.
Perhaps, DrPoulet, you should ask the son if the name "Magnus Olesen" rings any bells as the designer?



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DrPoulet
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10/12/2015 12:33 am  

Thanks a lot for the documentation!
It might be the picture (or my eyes) but it seems that the two planters are not exactly the same. The one on the second picture seems to have the legs fixed to the planter from the outside. Sorry I have no idea how to describe that in english...
Mine is exactly the same as in the Illum Bodinghus catalog, measurements (in cm) are spot on. I am not too familiar with the imperial system but the ones from Anton Dam are a bit more approximative. Yes, the width is very different between the two of them but it seems IB measures the distance between the feet (28 cm) while AD measures seems to be for the planter itself (19.6 cm exactly).


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