Design Addict

Cart

Coffee Table by Tov...
 

Coffee Table by Tove & Edvard Kindt-Larsen? France & Son or other?  

  RSS

JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
05/08/2016 10:43 pm  

can anyone confirm that this coffee table is by Tove & Edvard Kindt-Larsen for France and Son.
It appears from this photo to resemble it, and its listed as being 59 inches long, and 18 inches high which matches the dimensions of that table.
There is not markings or logos on the bottom.
Does anyone know if there are replicas/knock offs of this table, or if other manufacturers made it? Its for sale locally and I am going to check it out tonight. I know that a dealer checked it out and passed on it because it did not have the logo markings on the bottom; I am interested in it regardless of "authenticity" as I like the design from what i can see, and the price seems fair.
Could an expert help me determine if it is in fact the Tove & Edvard Kindt-Larsen table or maybe provide other insights into the table? Most notably if its something like "those are infamously cheap knockoffs that are worthless" etc.
Thanks


Quote
DrPoulet
(@drpoulet)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 641
05/08/2016 11:26 pm  

I guess you will find this thread helpful 🙂 http://www.designaddict.com/forum/General-discussion/Are-France-Son-piec...


ReplyQuote
DrPoulet
(@drpoulet)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 641
05/08/2016 11:33 pm  

Oh and check if the table disassembles. It is a knock down construction.


ReplyQuote
JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
05/08/2016 11:36 pm  

@DrPoulet thanks! although it does leave a little bit of question regarding authenticity of non stamped France and Son; but it very much does look like a Tove & Kindt-Larsen table like the one in that post 😀


ReplyQuote
leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
(@leif-ericson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 5660
06/08/2016 12:14 am  

I would avoid it if it is a France and Søn if it is not marked. Unless the price is really great. Even if it is legit France and Søn was so reliable about marking their stuff that people will not trust it without the mark.
Sometimes the medallions do fall out. And there should be a second France and Søn marking, physically impressed with gold foil. This second one can be hard to see in low light.


ReplyQuote
JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
06/08/2016 12:24 am  

thanks @leifericson
I have heard conflicting things in the past about France and Son markings; some people seem to claim they have non marker F&S; are they wrong/mistaken?


ReplyQuote
JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
06/08/2016 12:32 am  

I guess the other question; did Toves and Klindt-Larsen make this with any other manufacturers besides f&s?


ReplyQuote
leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
(@leif-ericson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 5660
06/08/2016 2:36 am  

I do not believe the are wrong or mistaken. But it seems to only have ever happened a very, very, very few times. And no this design was only for France and Søn.


ReplyQuote
HowardMoon
(@howardmoon)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 652
06/08/2016 4:51 pm  

It doesn't look right to me.
The side stretchers don't seem to exhibit the flowing soft sculpted wood working seen on an original. It's hard to make out from the image but it also looks like the two raised lip ends are not as pronounced as they should be.
The whole table should be produced from solid teak, including the surface, I suspect the table you have pictured may have a veneered top.


ReplyQuote
JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
06/08/2016 9:26 pm  

You appear correct @howardmoon and @leifericson it doesn't appear to be the Toves & Edvard Klindt-Larsen, but I still picked it up. Once seeing it in person it didn't have the proper look; but for the price (and my need for a new coffee table)! I am happy with it. Thanks for your help!




ReplyQuote
leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
(@leif-ericson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 5660
06/08/2016 11:47 pm  

Yeah, that does not look like the same design. Very similar.
For the record however there is a teak veneer version of the Kindt Larsen for France and Søn coffee table. The good ones are solid teak. The veneer version has a veneer surface with the raised lips carved from end grain teak and stuck on the ends. It is not a proper job because the end grain teak moves while the flat surface does not. This causes the splitting of the lip or breaking of the glue joint or any number of bad things.
I have to assume that this was a later version specifically intended to cut costs. I would guess from the late 1960s or 1970s and probably later in the Poul Cadovius era of France and Søn (post 1966). I have seen other late France and Søn pieces like the Hvidt & Mølgaard gateleg table, which in the classic version is solid teak, made out of veneer, with the veneer over the edge banding. Again to cut costs and keep the appearance mostly the same, even if it is not a design that lends itself to being executed in that fashion.
Anyway, here is a marked example in teak veneer with end grain edge banding:




ReplyQuote
JohnQ
(@johnq)
Trusted Member
Joined: 10 years ago
Posts: 63
07/08/2016 3:44 am  

@leifericson
you're amazing; full of really great information. I will assume my table is "inspired by" or perhaps a later, budget version. It appears to be teak, and construction looks decent. Glue jobs don't overlap, and no separation or anything. There seems some variation in the colouring on the edges vs the table top; assume thats due to the veneer and solid wood edges being different consistencies.


ReplyQuote
leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
(@leif-ericson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 5660
07/08/2016 6:15 am  

Your coffee table is a very similar, but not a Kindt-Larsen. Not even a later one.
And you table is built properly, which makes me prefer it greatly to one of the later "cost-cut" Kindt-Larsens. (The early ones that are carved out of solid teak are quite nice though.) The raised lip edge banding is side grain, so there is no mismatched wood movement to lead to structural problems.


ReplyQuote
Share:

If you need any help, please contact us at – info@designaddict.com

  
Working

Please Login or Register