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	As most of you know...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	koen	General discussion
	As most of you know... I hate to participate in this discussion, simply because nobody seems to be willing to move an inch on his or her opinion, no matter what the facts are and without any consideration what?s however for logic or it?s less elitist version: common sense. But I can not resist a few considerations. First of all, I have read the Wikipedia text and I can not find any contradictions or misleading statements, other than the Adler bicycle story?It was indeed seamless Reynolds tubing (patented in 1897) that made the chair possible and it is true t ...
	A little	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	A little A little alarming that you find them uncomfortable. As I mentioned I'm going to try them tomorrow. While I can tell the difference between a chair that is very comfortable and one that isn't totally good, there are very few chairs I find horribly bad. The only notable one I can think of is a Knoll Gigi chair. I spent a night at a restaurant in one and was MISERABLE the entire time. I have never had such a bad experience sitting down. The curve part dug into my lower back and caught on my belt/pants the whole night. I will be so sad if the wishb ...
	Vitra superior to Herman Miller?	1 Relevance	18 years ago	fabul	General discussion
	Vitra superior to Herman Miller? Can anyone else confirm that the Vitra execution of the Eames Lounge Chair is superior in quality to the Herman Miller product? I am based in Europe, but was actually considering buying from HM in the US and shipping it home, as Vitra pretty much charges double the HM price at current exchange rates. Now, if there is a noticeable difference in quality, or if the Vitra version is somehow closer to the original design, I just might change my mind...
	Lucifer, are you sure the l...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	Gustaf	General discussion
	Lucifer, are you sure the l... Lucifer, are you sure the lacquered ones are oak? I think they are made out of beech, which would explain the price difference. Soaped or oiled oak look best to me, and will age beautifully.
	Well. . .	1 Relevance	18 years ago	SDR	General discussion
	... who never asked for a raise, in 40 years in my trade. And I can't say I'm particularly proud of the fact.) You can't blame someone -- anyone -- for jealously guarding whatever they believe is unique to their "brand" -- and that's both ego and potential profit speaking. (While I would never seek to quash discussion, I begin to wonder what can really be said, meaningfully, about anything, considering that so many discussions come down to semantics: that is, one person's definition of terms vs another's. Moreover, tying our feelings, our innermost beliefs -- ...
	Books	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	... bound, from the Rennaissance would sell for several thousand. So - the biggest difference in this analogy is that a book only needs the cheapest materials to convey the brilliance. Printing on newsprint or on 100% organic archival linen doesnt affect the meaning of the words, altho it can very much affect the act of reading. (How many times have you had a cheap paperback disassemble into a flutter of yellowed pages?) What is interesting about furniture is that the intent is inherently tied to the materiality. An Emeco Navy chair isn't brilliant if it's ma ...
	What do you mean by "licensed reproductions"????	1 Relevance	18 years ago	barrympls	General discussion
	... of the copyright licensed it to be produced by some other company. That's why I mentioned that I have not seen this "knocked off". In this business, it's important that everybody understands the terms used; we've talked about that before. Perhaps I'm a bit more sensitive than others, but I'm still not aware if side by side the 1950's Swagged-leg desk is any different from the current Swag Leg Desk. The only difference I can see is that Herman Miller and the Estate of George Nelson has decided to remove the "ged" from the word "Swag". Oh, and I forgot, Her ...
	INteresting thoughts on the 670 lounge...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	DudeDah	General discussion
	INteresting thoughts on the 670 lounge... I have often described it to friends as not a chair you immediately sit in and think OHHHH THAT is a comfortable chair, BUT I DO find it a chair I can sit in for a long time without any diScomfort. I believe the 670 is a chair you COULD watch football in all afternoon..unless your goal is to FALL ASLEEP watching football. I agree that the Womb chair is very comfortable and probably MORE comfortable than the 670 lounge. Last night I sat in our Womb for a while and then switched over to the 670 to see how they felt dif ...
	Dear DCWilson	1 Relevance	18 years ago	koen	General discussion
	Dear DCWilson I am very pleased with your comments, especially the one on the difference between holding garlic and keeping garlic, because that is the direction in which I would like to improve the product next time around. Somehow the reference to the Venturi effect?.so well known from the water cooling towers?is too close to that generic form and whereas the very first one was a better integrated shape, the last one (photo nr 2) (photo nr 3 is the second version) looks too much like the stacking of two different pieces. Some people actually asked what do ...
	Durable. Making lightweight...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	whitespike	General discussion
	... the benefits of light luggage. Besides, most of the weight comes from what's inside the luggage not the bag itself. How much difference does it really make? If you want lighter luggage, then pack less of your belongings. DO you really need three pairs of boots? Are you really going to read 5 books at the beach? Maybe get an MP3 player rather than taking your CD book....
	how about this?	1 Relevance	18 years ago	whitespike	General discussion
	how about this? Would the finish difference be too odd??? I have the opportunity to get either of these at an awesome dealllllllllll. http://austin.craigslist.org/fuo/944587247.html
	Thank you...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	dcwilson	General discussion
	Thank you... But I stand by my comments about the quality and functionality and timelessness of the design. I've thought about it and its predecessor some more and here is my best distillation. The form of the newer version is more about "keeping" garlic, whereas the form of the original was more about looking like a garlic clove and about "holding" garlic. They both hold garlic just fine, I suppose, but the form of the latest version conveys its function much more articulately IMHO. This latest form looks like something capable of draft and capable of keepi ...
	Yes, the Eames were involved	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	... with Herman Miller and an American museum. Yes, slight changes have been made over time - almost all of them within the lifetime of the Eames (with the notable exception being in 1990 when the woods switched from Rosewood to Walnut/Cherry. Since then Rosewood has been reinstated.) Different markets are, well, different. Even car manufacturers restrict sales of certain models to certain regions. One theory for the different base might be to keep them distinct as products. It is illegal for an American company to sell a HM lounge to Europe - perhaps the b ...
	Koen	1 Relevance	18 years ago	whitespike	General discussion
	Koen I have to respectfully disagree. While this chair was not popular (and perhaps we could blame this on how few of them were created), I find it to be a successful design in terms of aesthetics. I have never sat in one, so I cannot vouch for it in functional terms. I find this chair to be absolutely stunning. In addition, I look at it and marvel at what a challenge it's construction must be. The first time I saw this chair I knew nothing about it, or about Grete Jalk. But I loved it enough to make it my desktop on my computer. I loved it with absolutely n ...
	I would have to agree with both of you...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	dcwilson	General discussion
	... made from and it looks assembled; this is evidence of some shift toward the functionalism we have noted previously in Piano. But yes I do think Koen is right when he says it is kind of a simplification of design, rather than a tour de force integration of complexity. Frankly, it is about what one would expect when architecture programs hide bound in formalism begin to step forward into functionalism. Functionalism is still very new to them and there are not a lot of architects in these schools that are great engineers. Remember, it took Piano a decade or tw ...