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	Harry Bertoia vs. Charles Eames	1 Relevance	20 years ago	LRF	General discussion
	Harry Bertoia vs. Charles Eames These guys were furniture designers not G-D as so many people make them n out to be. I have been reading for 20 years about Eames, Nelson Bertoia , and Knoll, and others and the relationships that they had. with others If you don't think that for one minute Eames and Bertoia had it out over the production and design of the wire chair you both have another thing coming , Anyone who takes one s design can not be happy with the other in this close knit group . For years I have read how the Chinaese have Bastardized these great designs and we have all reacted with anger how could they take such great designs and redo it just a little so they don't violate a trade dress patent. Just think how you would feel if it was someone you knew, worked with or had a close relationship with . I have slept many times since i first read this 20 plus years ago,
	.	1 Relevance	16 years ago	HPau	General discussion
	. I take my hat off to you! Some more shots and descriptions of the making of the chair would be nice. Unfortunately until the end of the financial year the only woodwork I'm doing is buying machines online, Kreg router table, yay! I know everyone says make your own but I could never make a fence that adjustable or accurate and my old one is so crap it will be a delight to dump it. The last thing I made was a Saarinen tulip-ish turned side table with a removable tray top for the infrequent tea drinking guest. For which I havn't finished the top because my lathe is under about 10 tonnes of crap. But I will post pictures later, some advice on its construction would be appreciated. I am making yogurt today, apparantly you can do it in a thermos, milk is $1.00 a litre, the brand I like is $5.00...all you need is a thermos, milk, heat, a thermometer and a teaspoon of yogurt, woo hoo!
	Skid	1 Relevance	22 years ago	Olive	General discussion
	Skid a few shots of my house are on the website of the concrete company that did all of our countertops and the tub. That's pretty OK with me, doesn't feel too wierd. But last weekend my house was included in the local 'Holiday House Tour'. I was asked to do it by the local realestate agency that knew the design/build guy who did it. I agreed to do the tour as I am trying to launch a professional organizer/redesign business and I know that my home demonstrates what I can help people do in theirs. BUT, that said, it was a pretty awkward experience. A bit like sitting around in your underwear while over 150 people traipse through your house. I would never have done this if it wasn't for the free advertising. My point being is that I think that many of us who are so into the design thing have this feeling of sanctuary about our homes that trump any pride-of-place feelings that would make us show off. Am I right folks?
	The Knoll versions I have	1 Relevance	11 years ago	_	General discussion
	The Knoll versions I have seen also has a metal round thing where the 'scissors' meet and straps instead of mesh or caning under the cushions. http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/permanent/296725.html#
	no we dont do leather ...	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LRF	General discussion
	no we dont do leather ... no we dont do leather to difficult and cost prohibitive on the swan and egg i always wondered why Fritz Hansen charged 10,000 dollars for a leather Egg now i know they are a night mare to hand sew, Please dont be soured on vintage chairs to recover it is not easy and so many times they dont look perfect . I always make sure i check every chair before it is shipped cause i hate to redo things a 2nd time I will be honest i didnt know much about the upholstery business when i started this company but have learned a hell of a lot and how hard some pieces can be, foam is tricky, and very expensive , but good people is the most important and we have had the same three guys for 20 years, I will bet BK will make it right they are suppose to be good. just tell them you want it redone, and do it right you are the customer and reputation is every thing in this business.
	These are both excellent...	1 Relevance	21 years ago	NULL NULL	General discussion
	These are both excellent... These are both excellent links - thank you two. Those sculpture and staircase pics were certainly tantalizng. But they never show you enough! Like a swimsuit issue. I want to walk around the sculpture, grope it, sleep with it under my pillow. I wonder if you guys are aware of the new sculpture park in the works here in Seattle? (It's not due for completetion for a while, I believe - months, years.. it takes Seattleites a long time to complete anything. 40+ years and no new monorail, for instance.) Calder, I know, will be represented. Noguchi's "Black Sun" is already outside our Asian Art Museum, along with a big red steel Calder. Don't know if they'll move them. I'll look into just what will be included in the thing, find some plans and share. ..Hey, you guys ever heard of a guy named Reimann? Big acrylic sculptures for several corporate headquaters and such. I'll post a link momentarily. Just lemme find it..
	Ikea blew my mind	1 Relevance	17 years ago	Pegboard Modern	General discussion
	OK, so I'm not up on all the contemporary designs available these days. I guess I really focus on vintage stuff to the exclusion of all else. But today I made the trip to Ikea. Spring is here and we decided that we needed a couple more of the ceramic outdoor planters I bought three years ago at Ikea. I foolishly thought they might still sell the simple, clean white ceramic planters that I'm thrilled to say survived two frigid winters without breaking. Now, I always say that a design geek going to Ikea is like visiting the grocery store hungry. It's dangerous. You are likely to buy things you don't need and did not want before you ever walked in the door. But once you are there, you become seduced by the fact that they are pretty cool, and damn! That's cheap! Before you know it, you are at the check-out line spending a couple hundred bucks on things you will regret buying as soon as you get home. "Did I really need a sugar spoon? Why did we buy those book-ends?" Well, I've long admired the basic Ikea ethos of good design at accessible prices. My problem has always been that if the quality is that of disposable furniture, you undermine the basic principle. Who cares how well designed it is if it's just going to end up in a landfill in a year or two? I would much rather pay more for quality and just buy less stuff. We managed to leave the store with just a few things today, but what struck me the most was two things: one was how much better the products looked in the vignettes than they did in the areas where you put the items in your cart. The context made a HUGE difference. And two, there were a number of pieces I really liked. I mean, REALLY liked. There were the usual, "that would look nice if it were better made and they used brushed stainless instead of that cheap shiny chrome plating" critiques. But there were also pieces where I said. "That's really great. If I had a need for that, I'd buy it in an instant". Only problem was, I did not really have a need. That did not stop me from giving in to the impulse to buy one thing. The Karljohan stool/ side table. I'd seen it in the thread about pine that Heath started earlier this month, and when I saw it I thought "what a handsome, simple, little thing". I thought about it again when we were discussing the Eames Time-Life walnut stools. Well, when I saw it today, I was enchanted. I had to buy one even though I don't know exactly where I'll use it. It comes in pine, birch or birch core (?) and I admit I opened 3 boxes before I found one that I liked the grain and color of (they vary). But I think this is one of those contemporary designs that will become a classic in the future. Granted, it does take some cues from already classic designs but it's a great little piece.
	Generally you would flatten...	1 Relevance	13 years ago	leif ericson - Zephyr Renner	General discussion
	Generally you would flatten... Generally you would flatten the surface with a sander and coarse sand paper. Then you move into sanding it final smoothness, progressively moving up through the grits of paper until it is as smooth as you want it. I usually sand teak up to 220 with a little palm sander I have. If it is already flat and fairly smooth you can obviously skip the coarse sanding and go straight to finish sanding. For finishing teak I generally use Formby's Tung Oil Finish in low gloss, which is available at the paint section in HomeDepot and Lowes around here. But most any oil product will make it look beautiful. Only thing I would avoid is a tinted oil, as the teak is already the color you want it to be.
	So you've got some elegant...	1 Relevance	19 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	So you've got some elegant... So you've got some elegant pieces (bellini and saarinen) and some modern pieces (saarinen and Eames) and some playfulness with materials (Starck). I would continue the playfulness with materials in any of the ways Olive suggested. The Zebra/Gloss white, or gloss white with grey Eames Dot fabric are my favorites. Pair it with the Saarinen table and you've got a great arrangement. I'd keep the chair on the left; its got way more personality than the one on the right. Whichever fabric you use I'd get enough to make a throw pillow or two to bring it back again somewhere else in the room. Whatever you do, use a classic fabric, and not some crazy faddish thing (thinking bright green leaves here) that will need to be redone in 12 months.
	.	1 Relevance	19 years ago	SDR	General discussion
	. Not to hijack this thread with my own concerns, but it should be said that my sketches are typically the first go-round for an idea, based on a structural concept and clothed in what I hope will be a viable functional and aesthetic form. As such, they await refinement. In particular, the proportions are not always studied and need improvement. When I draw these things, the important thing to me is to record the idea. (This caveat extends even to the finished models, I have to say.) That said, in drawing a table the vital thing is to suitably seat a number of diners. One of the purposes of the tapered ends of most of the designs is to bring those seated into a group that can easily see and join everyone else at the table. This happily coincides with what appeals to me in terms of form. A plain rectangular slab without relief of any kind is not my idea of a handsome and inviting table. Most of my tables are opened visually to the space within and beneath them, and some are given a central feature intended as a serving area, a means of displaying food and decoration -- and simultaneously providing the diners with their own territory. That's the sales pitch, I suppose, to those who would buy a table. In truth, I don't care if I sell a table; I make these things for their own sake, and the fact that they can be used as tables is really only of secondary importance to me. I suppose this is not an uncommon state of affairs. If I wanted to make sculpture, I wouldn't be constrained by the necessities of function. But I enjoy working with some constraints; I think designers by nature like the framework of the requirements within which they work. Oddly, this need for constraints was felt at the beginning of my education. As soon as the first sophomore year architecture problems had been undertaken, I began to feel that the made-up programs -- a real site, sometimes, but always an invented client and his imaginary needs -- didn't meet the standard of real design work. And the work I have done for real clients of the cabinetworks I have been involved with has always been done with the requirements, whatever they were and no matter how complex or even how arbitrary, as long as they were the stated needs of the job and the client, dispatched with as much fidelity as I could muster -- as was expected. So this work of my own has been a matter of setting my own requirements, and working under those constraints -- or lack thereof. It hasn't been work, really, but play, certainly a compulsion -- and very rewarding, in the pursuit of the always-just-around-the-corner ideal.
	I think you really need to	1 Relevance	10 years ago	Spanky	General discussion
	I think you really need to sit in a chair to know if you find it comfortable or not. I have compared opinions with people whom I trust about tons of chairs and sofas over the years---in person, all parties trying out the same thing---and it's kind of amazing how little we agree on! I think it comes down to a bunch of factors: individual height, weight, posture, body proportions (long torso, short legs vs. short torso, long legs), not to mention how you want to use the chair (slouching or sitting upright). I have a chair that I think is stunning to look at but I don't find it comfortable at all for the way I sit. I was very reluctantly thinking I should sell it until I realized that it's in a part of the room where I never sit. The people in my life who are all regular guests think it's very comfortable---so I'm keeping it! Doesn't usually work out that way, though.
	How do tannins affect	1 Relevance	13 years ago	Spanky	General discussion
	How do tannins affect paper over time? I know that black dyes used long ago eventually broke down cotton fibers, which are cellulose like paper. I thought it was due to tannins in the dye but it's been awhile and I could be remembering wrong. Tea is a popular home dye to give fabric an antique look but I have never seen it used as a black dye. Aniline dye is good for wood, and thus, paper, and would yield a good black. I think I mentioned that in the other thread but as long as we're having this discussion here, I thought I'd repeat myself. I tried the steel wool in vinegar thing a few years ago when I was trying to ebonize a walnut chair but gave up. It just made the chair more green. Then later I read somewhere that iron works way better than steel, but I had already moved on to India ink at that point.
	Roger,I would most agree with	1 Relevance	12 years ago	Starline	General discussion
	Roger,I would most agree with your own research from professionals about fitting the space. I would also agree in theory there are no rules but that is only true if the end result works. The best word I would descibe things is symmetry which you have to get right. The size of your pieces in relation to each other and the room they are placed in. Oversized pieces can work too but again goes back to if the end result works.Normally by oversized I mean more so an artwork,sculpture or light rather than furniture which cramps the space and can ruin the look of the whole room.If needing a bigger table it may just mean a design with a slimmer construct,width or a clear glass top etc. I would trawl through interior images and save then cull all your favourites down to the best 10 or so. Once you have that done you can call in a pro who's style you really like to help put it together from there.They may throw it out and start again but if you like their previous work then just let them do their thing.
	There was	1 Relevance	21 years ago	SDR	General discussion
	There was an article on these, and the businesswoman- designer who makes them, in one of the papers or magazines, in the last week. She discovered the material (vinyl "string"?) already in use in this woven form, and wanted to use it for a new version of her metal-fabric(?) decorative bowls. She found it wouldn't take that shape, so she came up with the place mats -- re-designing the weaves and color combinations to her satisfaction. First one, and then another high-concept restaurant (in New York, I think?) chose them, and soon she hadall the business than she could handle. It's already on the verge of passing; one final (?) restaurant has had full-table mats made, however. The reason they fit so well in those restaurants, is that the tables were usually of fine wood, which the restauranteurs (and their designers) didn't want to hide under tablecloths; and, the mats could be cleaned in-house, saving oodles on laundry bills. Get them while you can; the "next thing" is already on its way! SDR
	I agree with Leif, don't	1 Relevance	9 years ago	Spanky	Identification
	I agree with Leif, don't worry that you wasted money! I have no idea who made it but maybe your friends and family will be cheered if/when they see it properly outfitted with cushions. It looks odd without them, what with that high back and the two round (?) rungs at the top. That's unusual. The seat is lower that most, too, so you will want probably at least a 4" thick foam cushion---but 5" thick may look too heavy. I dunno, maybe stack some folded blankets together to about 5" high, wrap them in something solid, and try that out for looks. I can't even tell if it had a back cushion or not--the seat depth looks rather short to me to be accommodating the thickness of a back cushion too, but maybe the overall scale is way bigger than I am assuming. Maybe the rung area at top had a separate headrest cushion? Again, hard to say without knowing the human dimensions of the thing. That would make more sense. It may have had straps that attached to/around the rungs somehow.