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	Quick not on Eames chairs	1 Relevance	19 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	Quick not on Eames chairs This has happened to me a couple of times. Herman Miller has always been the distributor of the chairs - never the actual manufacturer (always contracted out). As such they warehoused the shells and assembled the color/base combinations only when orders were placed. Dating was rather imprecise - to my knowledge the date you find stamped onto the shells with ink is the date the chair left the warehouse. I had a shell with no secondary shockmount dimples (so pre DSS in 1955) but was dated 1957. Either way, one look at your chair ...
	Wow- Great find.	1 Relevance	10 years ago	jorbon	General discussion
	... what it was. To their credit, they still sold it to me for $95 after I gave them a chance to back out of the sale. Good people for sure. Mine is in pretty remarkable shape, sticker is in place and it has proven original. Normal wear, and the fiberglass doors rather than the dimpled plywood.
	glassartist	1 Relevance	16 years ago	Pegboard Modern	General discussion
	... attach the base to the shell with squared off edges. The 1st generation rocker I posted images of has rounded edges (also, note that they are not uniform) and I know without a doubt that chair is 100% original and vintage, having never even had the base removed or altered in any way (notice the larger screw heads?). Also, notice the dimpled oval shape on the tab? I've personally never seen a knock-off with that shape on the tab. Like glides and boots that appear on different generations of Zenith chairs with X bases, it's entirely plausible that the tabs af ...
	Finch	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	... this topic that ModernWoodworks designs fall apart when he moves off of the already established path. Proportions elongate and deepen, odd numbers are introduced, and funny finishes appear. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The ESU series are more than dimpled doors and cross-braces. Whitespike - my point was 'who determines materiality?' In the Eames' case it fell upon the family and upon Herman Miller/Vitra to change the fibreglass to poly. Some argue that this is an illegitimate change since the Eames were not directly involved. But again I ...
	Modern Woodworks	1 Relevance	18 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	... it can be argued that these are well made because Modernica had access to the original drawings and specs. I've not seen their other pieces, such as the "noguchi" tables so I cannot comment. And my 'crap' comment was more in reference to the scads of other knock-offs on the market than towards Modernica. Modern Woodworks, however, I've already discussed on the forum. His willingness to alter the materiality, design, and modularity of the ESUs throws his credibility right out the window. It proves my point that folks like him - however personable he may ...
	Charles Eames looks a bit like Bob Cummings the actor	1 Relevance	19 years ago	Tulipman	General discussion
	Charles Eames looks a bit like Bob Cummings the actor That genuine smile,those dimples.Don't you think?
	No problem. Post a photo once	1 Relevance	11 years ago	cdsilva	General discussion
	No problem. Post a photo once you have it all souped up. Here are my preferences for cushions for these Selig chairs (many have the same dims): seat: 22"x22"x4" - medium firm foam back: 17"x22"x3" - medium foam I've done with and w/o edge piping, which is more individual preference. Here is a good thread on how to re-strap the seats: http://www.designaddict.com/forum/Repair/Methods-for-fixturing-Pirelli-w...
	Interesting	1 Relevance	19 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	... chair bases could be done (affordably) with stainless steel instead of chrome plating I would be all for that - it doesnt radically change the look of the piece. As for the ESUs, my argument was that they are configurable -to a degree- within the scheme of the original designs. I argued against the knock-off versions stretching and skweing the proportions/ratios of the originals. The example that I gave was a knock-off ESU that had moved from a 4 cubbied unit into a three cubbied unit, solely to accomodate a television. The manufacturer had added a third ...
	Not a valid argument at all!	1 Relevance	19 years ago	LuciferSum	General discussion
	Not a valid argument at all! When I worked in an art gallery we joked that you bought a couch to match your new Rothko painting, not a Rothko that matches your couch. Point being that if your electronics are too big to fit in an ESU you buy a different television - or put it somewhere else. Charles Eames wasnt just 'some guy' picking parts off of a shelf. His wife wasn't a pretty little woman who liked to arrange flowers. They were both professional and very qualified designers. Would LRF or Barry or the guy from Modernwoodowks say that they are better d ...
	It's been a	1 Relevance	21 years ago	SDR	General discussion
	... roundly booed for its "Swiss cheese" facade; it was't built.) Maybe the newspaper just likes to print the worst of the letters. . .? I have so far explored the building only minimally -- the lobby, cafe and museum store (of course) have been open for a few weeks. At least as much as with most buidings, it is useless to form opinions about it from afar. The exterior form is mystrious and brooding, in sympathy with at least some of the mature woods all about in the park, but one is drawn to the cave-like entrance -- actually a short tunnel to a polygonal s ...
	Barcelona chairs rescued from house clearance - provenance?	1 Relevance	9 years ago	Radikon	Identification
	Hi everyone, My first time posting here having just discovered the extremely useful forum. I have recently come into possession (I rescued them from a friend's elderly relative's house clearance in Mexico) of two Barcelona chairs, in ivory (could just be dirty white) leather, clearly vintage (not only are they filthy but also have decades of wear and sadly the last owner seems to have had their dog on them etc) but I would love to know if they are Knoll, pre Knoll, knock-offs or otherwise... No fabric labels remain at all. The leather looks like pig skin up ...
	Papa Bear in his skivvies!	1 Relevance	12 years ago	leif ericson - Zephyr Renner	General discussion
	I am finished the careful disassembly of the Papa Bear chairs upholstery, and it is absolutely fascinating. I have dozens of photos. And there are a number of misconceptions in the sketchy information available here and there. Foremost, the back panel with the rectangles and buttons is actually sewed from one uncut piece of fabric. It has arching darts stitched in that create the rectangles and create the dimples for the buttons. Also, the darts make the whole piece flare at the top, so the "waist" is slimmer. I have noticed on improperly reupholstered s ...
	Help me identify/date an Eames Arm Shell?	1 Relevance	14 years ago	stereoscope	General discussion
	... I apologize. The details: -It's a light cream color -not quite pure white, but not very translucent like the parchment chairs. - the ONLY imprinted logo on the shell is the Summit double triangles. No HM letters or logo. It does have a paper label with patent numbers and adhesive below that for a longer, skinnier label just below the existing paper label. -It's narrow mounted, and I do not see the dimples for wide mounts as I have seen on some of my side chairs. -It's mounted on an H base, zinc colored (ie not black). Seems a bit low for dining height, at ...
	great job	1 Relevance	15 years ago	superdeluxe20	General discussion
	great job looks awesome tinyarmada. i have been waiting to see what you came up with after discussing importing the repros to australia for my shells (which wasnt really my preferred way to go). i have been inspired to follow suit and have some custom made...what i'll use to get the exact dims i dont know yet but i know i'll feel better doing the shells justice with a custom job. im glad i waited to see what you came up with. cheers. forgot to ask but could you point me in the direction of the fellow who made them...i did a google search for M.C but came ...
	Nice work Ernst	1 Relevance	16 years ago	sdc	General discussion
	Nice work Ernst Are you using the dims found earlier in this thread? Getting ready to start one and going to tweak them a little but would like to start with close approximations. Any help would be greatly appreciated.